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Source for SCSI Hard Drives
Posted by: TheDoctor on 2007-05-02 10:43:53
Where is everyone going these days to get larger SCSI drives? I've got a WGS 6150 I'd like to resurrect but I'm having a hard time finding a 50-pin SCSI drive that's larger than 2 GB.

Posted by: tomlee59 on 2007-05-04 00:10:34
If you want to try using larger capacity scsi drives, they'll often be 68 or 80-pin jobs. You can use adapters to connect to a 50-pin world (they run about $10-20), although you may occasionally run into some incompatibilities nonetheless.

Posted by: TheDoctor on 2007-05-05 08:23:29
Right, I was hoping to find something without the adapters as I've read that it can be hard to fit the drives with adapters in the 6100s.

Posted by: tomlee59 on 2007-05-05 09:42:57
Generally speaking, 50-pin scsi drives larger than about 4GB are rare (based unscientifically on the fact that I don't own one). I once came across a large stack of 4gig drives in a surplussed server. Bought 10 at a buck apiece and upgraded my old 68k macs. Wish I had bought more (there were maybe 50 of them, total). When I got around to returning to the store, they'd all been sold.

Good luck tracking down these larger drives. They're out there, but getting more scarce day by day.

Posted by: luddite on 2007-05-05 15:28:58
I recently bought a 50 Gig Barracuda off eBay that came with a 68-50 pin adaptor. Works fine in my LC 475 if slightly overkill.

Posted by: MacG4 on 2007-05-05 17:09:59
ive got a few 9gig 50pins drives. got them free from a guy at work

Posted by: Unknown_K on 2007-05-05 19:20:00
I have (1) 9GB native 50 pin.

There are 50GB 50 pin drives on ebay all the time (seagate I think)

Posted by: MacG4 on 2007-05-05 20:12:28
I have (1) 9GB native 50 pin.There are 50GB 50 pin drives on ebay all the time (seagate I think)
yeah i have seen then
Posted by: Scott Baret on 2007-05-05 20:31:29
Is there anywhere I can still buy 40MB drives?

Posted by: Patrickool93 on 2007-05-05 21:00:32
I have a 40mb drive.

Posted by: MacG4 on 2007-05-05 22:12:18
Is there anywhere I can still buy 40MB drives?
why would u want such a small drive?
Posted by: TylerEss on 2007-05-05 22:25:43
Isn't that "50-pin native" 50GB drive on eBay a 50GB IDE drive with an IDE-SCSI adaptor?

Posted by: The Macster on 2007-05-06 05:36:17
Is there anywhere I can still buy 40MB drives?
Off us probably, if you really wanted such a thing 😛 I'm sure we all have lots of the stock drives that we've replaced after finding a larger drive somewhere. They're pretty useless though, you can only fit the OS and a couple of apps on there and then it's full!

Posted by: doug-doug the mighty on 2007-05-06 05:42:48
but they are ideal for those restoring a Mac to original state (purists) and for those sticking multiple drives in a Mac and want to keep the OS drive seperate from the "data" drives.

I have started using my larger drives for a/v content and the smaller ones for word proc files (grant it the same drive as the OS), but it keeps the 'media' separate and transferable to another machine very easily.

Posted by: Unknown_K on 2007-05-06 08:35:12
I keep the original drives to my Amigas (40-80MB) so if I ever want to put them back into stock condition I can.

For the Macs I don't worry about stock condition, but I do keep the 120MB stock IIfx HD on the shelf (its the 5.25" type). I would think a 200MB HD would be fine for a pre SE/30 compact, but not so good for a Q800.

And yes, I keep A/V drives seperate from the OS and preferable in an external enclosure so I can use those drives with multiple Macs.

Posted by: Charlieman on 2007-05-09 12:41:55
I bought an ATA-->SCSI converter so that I could use one big, cheap disk in my 8600. I can easily create partitions to install different operating systems and everything just works. I don't keep data on this Mac because it is just around for experimentation.

My decision for the ATA-->SCSI converter was based on:

1. I can upgrade to a bigger ATA disk if necessary (not sure if the controller will work with 128+MB disks).

2. The ATA-->SCSI converter will work happily in my 68K Macs. Even a Mac 512K with SCSI controller, with limitations.

3. Second hand IDE PCI cards for PowerMacs will become dirt cheap shortly, if not already. And IDE disks are even cheaper. So I am going to buy and scrounge them. SCSI disk that have been lightly used will become rarer. The ATA-->SCSI converter will keep my 68K Macs running on cheap/free hard disks.

I'll second Tom Lee on 4GB 50 pin SCSI drives from servers. Some people have experienced problems using Barracudas and others from Compaq servers, but experiment with formatting tools. Locate a formatter that understands the drive and does not perform a generic format. Apple's formatters, hacked or otherwise, will not do a good job. Use a third party formatter.

Posted by: TylerEss on 2007-05-09 15:27:01
... I had great luck with a few 4GB Barracudas from Compaq (ones with vendor string COMPAQPC). Formatted 'em with Drive Setup (patched).

I guess it's really true that your mileage may vary.

Posted by: Unknown_K on 2007-05-09 17:01:03
Most of the issues using 80/68 Pin drives converted to 50 pin is termination and formatting software. I have had decent luck with silverlining (mostly for 030 machines), charismac anubus (for the SEIV and Jackhammer cards), and Micronet utilities (for Micronet cards).

Posted by: Bunsen on 2007-05-10 01:52:48
Isn't that "50-pin native" 50GB drive on eBay a 50GB IDE drive with an IDE-SCSI adaptor?
Is it?? Does this seller do this regularly? And who are they?

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