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| 5300cs - how to find a PCMCIA to SD card adapter that is 16 bit? |
Posted by: youjuoufudtgd on 2017-10-27 00:06:14
Hi,
I was just wondering if these are 16 bit, or if anyone knows of any that are
https://www.amazon.com/Hikig-Convert-Adaptor-Mercedes-support/dp/B0743HVRFS/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1509087781&sr=1-6&keywords=pcmcia+to+sd
https://www.amazon.com/Reyann-Adaptor-Converter-Mercedes-Command/dp/B00XPGW5GS/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1509087852&sr=1-5&keywords=pcmcia+sdhc
edit: this is https://www.ebay.com/itm/5-in-1-PCMCIA-Card-Adapter-Support-for-MS-MSPro-SD-MMC-SM/282652005882?hash=item41cf5f55fa:g:6kcAAOSwl75ZuVz9
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Posted by: Strimkind on 2017-10-28 10:31:26
PCMCIA is generally the term for 16bit whereas CardBus is for 32bit cards. Based on that, any of these 'should' work but I have never used an SD to PCMCIA card as they were uncommon when I was shopping for them. Instead I use a CF card and adapter.
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Posted by: youjuoufudtgd on 2017-10-28 22:46:27
PCMCIA is generally the term for 16bit whereas CardBus is for 32bit cards. Based on that, any of these 'should' work but I have never used an SD to PCMCIA card as they were uncommon when I was shopping for them. Instead I use a CF card and adapter. I ordered the third one. Seller confirmed it was 16 bit, however it does NOT support sdhc (fine with me).
I wanted it instead of a cf card because I can directly transfer files onto it with my MacBook pro. (I'm going to install 8.1 on it, from itself, so I have hfs+)
Do you think that 8.5/8.6 are ok on 24mb RAM?
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Posted by: Strimkind on 2017-10-29 10:18:46
I would recommend a minimum of 32mb, preferably 64mb for 8.5/8.6
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Posted by: youjuoufudtgd on 2017-10-29 13:55:40
I would recommend a minimum of 32mb, preferably 64mb for 8.5/8.6 In that case, where could I find one of those RAM cards? The biggest one on eBay is 16mb, which gets me... Where I am already.
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Posted by: Byrd on 2017-10-29 14:19:26
You can also get CF --> SD adapters that purport to support SDHC cards, as a trial ...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Compact-Flash-CF-Card-Type-I-to-SD-SDHC-SDXC-Memory-Card-Adaptor-Convertor/221843134758?hash=item33a6e19926:g:Sv4AAOSwLVZVvysm
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Posted by: youjuoufudtgd on 2017-11-02 11:16:05
I have CONFIRMED that the last item on this list is indeed 16 bit, and does not support SDHC.
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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-11-02 17:03:27
That'd be the one from eBay?
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Posted by: youjuoufudtgd on 2017-11-02 17:05:41
That'd be the one from eBay? yes |
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-11-02 17:10:03
Cool, mine arrived, but haven't been able to test it yet.
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Posted by: 604ev on 2017-11-03 00:33:08
The Digigear SDHC PCMCIA card is 16bit
https://www.ebay.com/itm/SD-SDHC-SDXC-to-ATA-Flash-Memory-PCMCIA-PC-Card-Adapter-Reader-for-256GB-128GB/371129508743
..and very slow in the PowerBook G4's 32bit cardbus slot..
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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-11-04 10:11:29
SD Formatter 4.0
Found something, dunno if it's relevant to 68k/earlyPPC, but it sounds interesting.
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Posted by: youjuoufudtgd on 2017-11-04 11:11:12
SD Formatter 4.0
Found something, dunno if it's relevant to 68k/earlyPPC, but it sounds interesting. If you use this it will change it from APM to MBR which means you can't boot from it |
Posted by: defor on 2017-11-09 16:59:24
I'd love to see some disk performance test results with something relevant to old Macs (MacBench 5 for example)
Also curious to know if speed of SD matters at all on a machine this slow.
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Posted by: Elfen on 2017-11-11 22:30:34
I have used a 1GB PCMCIA Flash Memory card from SanDisk (similar to this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sandisk-110MB-PCMCIA-ATA-Industrial-Flash-Memory-Card-68pins/300832545667) and I have used CF in a PCMCIA Adapter (like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-PCMCIA-Compact-Flash-Disk-Memory-Card-Reader-Converter-Adapter-to-PC-Laptop/172336312700 ) and they work just fine as boot devices on my 5300ce/190s and 1400c's.
Insert them into the PCMCIA Slot and the OS will ask of you want to format them if they are unformatted or format is a weird format that Mac OS does not recognize. Format it and it will come up with a PCMCIA Disk Icon when it is done. Make it bootable - copy a system folder to it, Bless it, and then go into Control Panel - Start Up Disk and select it. And it will be Bootable from there every time it is in the system.
If you want to replace your hard drive it with it, you will need a CF to IDE adapter like I did here (read the following posts from here: https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/23406-booting-from-a-compact-flash-drive/page-2&do=findComment&comment=244695).
Only get the Single CF Adapters, Dual CF (those with 2 CF Slots) do not work on Macs for some reason. Something like this will work great: https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Compact-Flash-CF-Card-to-IDE-44Pin-2mm-Pitch-Male-2-5-HDD-Adapter-Card-SA/391837245867
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Posted by: Elfen on 2017-11-11 22:36:14
I'd love to see some disk performance test results with something relevant to old Macs (MacBench 5 for example)
Also curious to know if speed of SD matters at all on a machine this slow. I never had luck with such test programs, because they test on a Hard Drive's Large Block Data Transfers and CFs used as SSDs tend to do short block transfers, which during the tests comes up with really weird results of the SSD being a lot slower than a hard drive, but when you see the system boot up and run, and apps/data load and save, it is a lot faster than any hard drive can be.
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