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Color Classic Mystic, 7.6.1, StuffIt 4.0 can't open .sit files from Internet?
Posted by: unxmaal on 2017-10-05 11:28:29
[Apologies for any breach of etiquette; I'm new here.]

Over the weekend I've acquired a Color Classic with a LC575 motherboard 'Mystic' upgrade. (It came with 2 spare LC575 boards: one standard, and one with an 040 that was somehow overclocked with an oscillator and a heatsink(?!)).

The CC's floppy drive doesn't seem to work. The CC has a SMC ethernet card, which does work. I have the CC on my local network.

The existing system drive has StuffIt 4.0 installed. As iCab/Navigator are really slow, I have downloaded a few .sit archives to my OS X High Sierra Mac Mini, then served the .sit archives from the download folder via "python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8888". I then used Navigator to 'download' the files from the Mac Mini to the CC.

Unfortunately, for most of these archives, I am unable to extract them. For the few that I have extracted, I am unable to run the binaries. These are things like MacSSH 68K, NiftyTelnet, and so forth, all made for 68k Macs.

I'm unable to use the Dropstuff Extractor, as it complains the StuffIt Engine isn't installed.

I've attempted to install StuffIt 5.5 Deluxe, but have been unable to extract a working installer binary.

I have used SheepShaver on OSX to emulate a saved @2000 PowerBook image, and have installed StuffIt 4.0 on it, then attempted to create 4.0 .sit and .sea .hqx files. I transferred those files to the MM via the 'unix' share, then downloaded them via browser to the CC. The CC was able to extract the .hqx, and the .sit, but the resulting binaries didn't work, with an "error -39".

What am I missing?

Thanks!

Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2017-10-05 12:34:02
There are versions of StuffIt that go up to v7.0.1 that are of interest to you. Try installing StuffIt Expander 7.0.1 in SheepShaver and see if that works. It requires CarbonLib 6, if I remember correctly.

As for your CC, It can run up to StuffIt 5.5 and then only the 68k version. You don't really need the Deluxe version, StuffIt Expander with Enhancer is all you really need. The enhancer is the StuffIt engine. Check out the many entries on Macintosh Garden.

Posted by: unxmaal on 2017-10-05 12:52:28
I'm aware that the CC will run StuffIt 5.5. What I don't understand is why StuffIt 4.0 cannot extract functional binaries from virtually every .sit archive I've downloaded.

Posted by: Macdrone on 2017-10-05 13:56:13
because 4.0 wont understand the newer standard  The internet was mostly after that version.

Posted by: kerobaros on 2017-10-05 22:13:12
http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/stuffit-expander-55

On that page, you can find a .bin file that contains Stuffit 5.5. I assume that Stuffit 4 can open a MacBinary file. Give that a try, and let us know how it works.

PS: welcome to the Mystic club! I put one together this summer, and it's easily my favorite little computer now.

Posted by: unxmaal on 2017-10-06 08:01:20
I had tried the Mac Garden Stuffit 5.5 bin, which didn't work. 

Ultimately I was able to install 4.0 deluxe on the Powerbook VM, compress its 5.5 Deluxe to a .sea, then binhex that and transfer it to the CC. 

I'll work on getting a proper 5.5 install over the weekend.

I suspect this 7.6.1 OS install needs to be wiped and redone, but since it is a Mystic with the LC575 board, and I have no other external bootable media, I'm not sure I want to tackle that. 

Posted by: Macdrone on 2017-10-07 10:06:08
try burning a cd rom and using an external cdrom to install it?

Posted by: unxmaal on 2017-10-09 10:23:07
I'm finding a lot of opinions on CD burning, and few facts.

If I have a System 7/8/9 .iso, can I burn that from, say, Win10, to a regular blank CD? Or do I need to find an ancient Mac with a burner and use Toast?

Posted by: Macdrone on 2017-10-09 18:50:30
i think cd's are in iso format so taost for pc or mac will work just fine.

Posted by: kerobaros on 2017-10-10 00:10:26
I've burned plenty of Toast images from a Linux computer by renaming the images from .toast to .iso. Works perfectly.

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