68kMLA Classic Interface

This is a version of the 68kMLA forums for viewing on your favorite old mac. Visitors on modern platforms may prefer the main site.

Click here to select a new forum.
SCSI2SD Setup Troubles
Posted by: EvieSigma on 2017-06-12 09:38:52
I recently purchased a SCSI2SD and today I installed it in my Color Classic. I booted the CC off an external HD with a CC-compatible installation of 7.1 and the patched version of HD SC Setup 7.3.5. I got the SD card initialized and partitioned but that's when things started to go wrong.

First, HD SC Setup won't let me use the whole SD card. Is 4GB just a hard size limit for 7.1?

Second, despite having a 4GB partition, I can't copy over the system folder from the external HD to the SD card. It says that somehow 42MB of additional space is required. What's going on? How could I possibly not have enough space?

Posted by: Themk on 2017-06-12 09:39:49
2GiB partitions.

Posted by: EvieSigma on 2017-06-12 09:42:50
Oh, that's it? It lets me make 4GB partitions but they don't actually work? That's...weird.

Posted by: Themk on 2017-06-12 09:46:10
It's not all that weird and/or surprising that HD SC Setup 7.5.3 makes 4GB partitions. HD SC Setup 7.3.5 came out after SCSI Manager 4.3 and System 7.5. In that configuration 4GB partitions will work; 7.1 doesn't work with 4GB partitions.

If you want to use the entire space of the card, make multiple 2GiB partitions.

Posted by: EvieSigma on 2017-06-12 11:24:24
That worked! I get a message telling me my disk isn't recognized but the CC still boots just fine.

Now to find the CCII system enabler and reinstall System Update 3.0...

Posted by: Themk on 2017-06-12 12:18:30
I'm glad its all working out.

I believe the "unknown drive" problem is due to it not liking a partition on the disk. (But as you mentioned it still works fine with that) The 4GB 7,200RPM disk in my SE/30 currently has that problem, it's a little bit annoying to have to always click cancel or whatever, but it doesn't affect usability.

Posted by: EvieSigma on 2017-06-12 15:19:08
Is there a list out there that says which enabler is for which system? 

I know Enabler 403 is the Color Classic and 401 is the LC 520/550, but I have no idea which one is for the CCII (and thus which one will make my machine show up properly in About This Macintosh).

Posted by: mraroid on 2017-06-12 15:55:26
Here  'ya go....

http://www.mac512.com/macwebpages/cciispec.htm

Looks like it is the 403....

mraroid

Posted by: EvieSigma on 2017-06-12 16:23:57
Hmm. Guess I need to reinstall System Update 3.0 or something, right now the CC is just shown as "Macintosh".

Posted by: Macdrone on 2017-06-12 17:03:48
After 7.5 it will always say power macintosh or macintosh. There was an init that fixes it.  I listed the name of it on another thread and its version.  Off the top of my head I forget what its called.

Posted by: EvieSigma on 2017-06-12 19:58:38
Nope, even after reinstalling the system update it still just says Macintosh instead of Color Classic II/Performa 275. Oh well. 

Posted by: mraroid on 2017-06-13 05:40:30
Humm.  I am running a Color Classic with a CC II logic board with 7.6.1.  I just looked.  MIne dose not says "Color Classic".  I did do a "universial install" as I plan on rolling in a LC 575 logic board at some point.  But when I first installed 7.6, I could have chosen "for this mac only".  Maybe if I did that it would have said "Color Classic".....

Here is an expensive option.  Original CC floppy disks:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-X-Apple-Macintosh-Color-Classic-Vintage-Disks-in-2-Packs-New-Sealed-NOS-OS-7-1-/152237100950?hash=item237209cf96:g:GQsAAOSwgmJX1Ge4

 A 68K forum member has this free site:

www.macfixer.com/vintage-software/

No Color Classic versions of 7.what ever.  But you can find different versions of 7 OS.

Keep us updated.

mraroid

Posted by: Themk on 2017-06-13 07:13:00
System 7.6 will never show the computer name in the About this Macintosh box unless you install a 3rd party extension.

Posted by: mraroid on 2017-06-13 07:19:42
Where can I find this extension?  Do I google "apple Color Classic Extension"?  Thhis is a small software patch, right?

Thanks

jack

Posted by: Themk on 2017-06-13 07:22:44
Well, it's not from Apple, which is why I said third party.

It's called Mac Identifier:

get it here: http://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=20501&keywords=mac%20identifier

Posted by: mraroid on 2017-06-13 07:55:05
I went to the above link and down loaded Mac Identifer 1.1.1.  I put it in my extension folder and rebooted.  On boot, it I got the bomb and it said to re boot with out extensions and remove it.  So I did and the computer boots fine now.

I am running a CC II logic board in my CC wtih OS 7.6.1.  Maybe I need a newer version of Mac ID 1.1.1?  Or did I do something wrong?

Thanks for the help.

mraroid

Posted by: Macdrone on 2017-06-13 08:08:38
I am running 7.6.1 on my color classic with a 550 board and it shows color classic II with the identifier, so I am not sure what the problem is.  Maybe you have an extention it doesnt work well with.  Thats why they made a 3rd party program called conflict catcher.

Posted by: mraroid on 2017-06-13 08:15:35
Also Themk....  At some point I am going to roll in a LC 576 logic board. The CC II board is in my CC now. So I removed 7.6 that I installed  for "this mac only" and did a fresh install of 7.6 for " any mac".  After that, I did the upgrade to 7.6.1.  Maybe that screwed me over??  Not sure....

mraroid

Posted by: Themk on 2017-06-13 08:16:52
There could be many reasons why Mac Identifier isn't working due to a conflict on your system. I'm sorry, but I can't really help you there as I don't know all of your control panels and extensions. Take Macdrone's advice, and try conflict catcher.

1 >