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$30 SE/40/1MB/6.0.8 from craigslist . . .
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-04-03 19:53:18
.  .  .  picked it up this afternoon and it booted right up! Last used in 1996. [🙂] ]'>

I'll have to take it for a ride in the car and bang it around some more, HDD's back in stiction mode. :🙂

Posted by: CompuNurd on 2017-04-03 21:22:10
Track day bro!

Maybe some rally racing while you're at it.

That'll do

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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-04-03 22:32:22
Nah, don't wanna bork anything else doing that (especially me or the car) and I've got plenty of SCSI HDDs to choose from. Those 20MB & 40MB drives left something to be desired. Dollars to doughnuts it's a Miniscribe. 😛

I can't believe somebody used this thing until '96 and never upgraded the memory! Then again, it never saw a System 7 install. Very light use, no burn in at all. It's in beautiful condition, I don't think there's a mark on it that won't just scrub off. When I saw 6.0.8 boot up it put me right back in the day! 😀

I've still got the special SCSI card for the PC, now if I could just find the drivers for both sides: QuickShare

Posted by: Themk on 2017-04-04 07:11:09
Very nice machine. System 6 and 1MB work fairly comfortably-though 2MB or more is really nice. The 40meg hdd can hold System 6 plus many applications and documents well. I got my SE in similiar condition to yours, very nicely taken care of! No burn in at all, Infact the tube was so perfect it got swapped into my SE/30... Well, more like I stuffed my SE/30 board into a perfect Mac SE. They had, however, upgraded to 2mb AND System 7.5.5. (How does that even boot :?: ) on the original 40mb hdd. Also last used in '97. All it ran was Word 4 and some printer software, I think in its last years it became a dedicated word processor (perhaps due to the M0116's mechanical keyswitches?)

Posted by: EvieSigma on 2017-04-04 08:55:57
Somehow System 7.5.5 runs on 4MB in my Color Classic and isn't the slowest thing ever. I don't know how that's possible.

Posted by: Themk on 2017-04-04 09:44:30
4MB isn't so bad, but not ideal. At 2MB though, oh my...

At first I thought there was something wrong with the machine, until I realized it was running 7.5.5

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-04-04 11:47:23
I was using the MacSignMaker 's bundled SE/20/Radius16/CoPro for doing graphics beyond the scope of the package, so I fairly soon upgraded to 4MB. Never took that production machine to System 7 because there was no pressing need and QuickShare never made the jump to 7.

I moved on to a IIx and the B&W PanaPro 19" TPD for production work and the SE was relegated to Plotter Server duty and as the "Paperless Office" connection to the JT-FAX card (I kid you not, that was the name!) over QuickShare to the Tandy 1000SX FAX Server I used as a remote scanner, converting the PCX(?) files sent tome  indirectly by customers and pulling them off with the SE. It was pretty slick for the time, on a par with ThunderScan for my purposes.

I've been fighting the urge to recreate that system for quite a while now  .  .  .  finally lost that battle. Just opened up the case and it's immaculate inside. Standard SE chassis though, I'll be swapping that for the extra SE/30 sheet metal. I'll probably never be able to source another Radius16, so I'm looking into using the 16MHz  68030 MicroMac Performer installed on an adapter board to mount vertically on the Radius MagicBus card like an SE/30 expansion card.

Posted by: Themk on 2017-04-04 12:07:16
My SE was late enough that it has the SE/30 chassis, so nice... Anyway, that would be cool if you set up your SE like you had back in the day. It is cool to hear about how people used their machines back when they were new.

:lol: JT-FAX card, That is hilarious. Hopefully you still have it somewhere...

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-04-04 12:24:55
I'm working on it already! It's not the first rev. Radius FPD of yesteryear's dreams, but the Radius PrecisionView 2150 will have to do. I just ordered a Radius TPD Card. Sitting the SE on top of the pet IIfx next to it places SE in perfect alignment with that  Big@$$ Trinitron!

It'll be interesting to see if hooking up the TPD card's BNC output to one the PrecisionColor's BNC inputs will be recognized by the monitor and displayed correctly in B&W right off the bat.

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-04-04 13:51:33
Realized I used the Torx (bent allen wrench stock) T-handle and case spreader from the 4MB MacConnection upgrade kit for my original SE to open up the new one! Sweet! [😀] ]'>

Posted by: Themk on 2017-04-06 08:48:42
That's kinda cool. You will have to update this after you get everything put together. I really have a soft spot for the SE. I like it better than the faster SE/30. I don't know why, but I just kind of like the charm of it. It is not that I dislike the SE/30, I just think I like the SE slightly better, but the SE/30 is one of my favorites too.... Argh, so many choices, and so hard to decide which one is truly my favorite! (Still think I am gonna go with SE ATM) (I guess this is why I have both 😀 😛 )

Posted by: Johnnya101 on 2017-04-06 14:17:15
I have am se/30, a CC, and a plus, but my plus... man it's got something to it. I love it.

Posted by: Themk on 2017-04-06 14:21:23
An SE and a Plus are really similar: 4MB RAM ceiling, 8MHz 68000, 1-bit 512x342 video, compact mac...

I like the SE slightly better, as it can be upgraded to use 1.44MB disks, and it also lets me use ADB keyboards. Also, due to its built-in fan, when you find them, the analog board components are usually in better shape.

Posted by: BadGoldEagle on 2017-04-06 14:38:14
Argh, so many choices, and so hard to decide which one is truly my favorite! 
That's why I currently have 10 Compacts scattered all around my bedroom. LOL.

Posted by: Themk on 2017-04-06 14:45:54
That's why I currently have 10 Compacts scattered all around my bedroom. LOL.
Oh my, do I even want to visualize what that is like? :lol: That is hilarious!

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-04-06 15:45:05
I just did a quick head count and I'm at somewhere around seven Compact cases plus the (bezel only) Faux Lisa II. I think only three came as complete systems and the rest were one found item and several bought or traded for as parts for replacements or for hacks. Probably only three will escape hacking.

Found my MagicBus card, but it was in awful shape, really corroded connector, but it was that way when I got it, just forgot about the condition. Ordered up another MagicBus card bundled with an xPD card that's untested. Pics were TPD, heading said FPD, we'll see when they get here, but one combo or both should work out fine.

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-04-07 10:33:20
Apart from the cherry MagicBus card, one of the reasons I snagged the second SE/TPD card bundle (hopefully) was the driver CD included:



I don't see the "Classic/SE/+ Display" driver spec'd in the Radius Q&A as the proper driver for the FPD card on the list, but maybe it's in that Radius folder.

Anybody got linkage to the SE/TPD drivers? Saw mention of FPD drivers not installing without a good connection to to the FPD, but connecting BNC-BNC green video line input of the PrecisionColor 2150 would seem to be that ticket. I'm guessing about a 50/50 chance that the monitor will detect legacy input, identify itself as compatible to the SE/TPD card and automagically sidestep the "green screen of confusion"

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-04-08 10:15:23
This is getting exciting! Within the last 24 hours so much has happened for this project:

The first of two Radius TPD cards arrived from Canada much sooner than expected yesterday afternoon!

Last night olePidgeon posted a ton of goodies in the TP and is hooking me up with the long lost Radius16 accelerator!

Today I followed Alex's link to archive.org In a frenzied "Macintosh" search I found a 21.4MB 1991 RadiusWare driver compendium.zip!

Gotta find the crappy (640x480 only) DA-15 to 3BNC cable to hack!

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2017-04-08 18:19:55
Yay! I found my original Radius16 manuals and the upgrade kit info (new ROMs) I bought in 1992 to upgrade the SE to System 7. It'll be interesting to see what ROM's on the accelerator when it arrives. Both the SE/Radius16 and the IIx/Rocket topped out at 7.0.1/tuneup back in the day, I only recently got 7.1 for the Rocket-in-IIsi project.

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