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Posted by: LarBob on 2017-02-28 14:53:09
Hi, I have a regular old SE here with a dead hard disk. I could replace it as I have other SCSI drives, but I don't have any way to install the OS as the SE has an 800k drive. Could anyone write some disks and allow me to borrow them or something or does anyone have any other ideas? 😛 This seems kind of silly but I'm not sure what other options I have. Thanks.
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Posted by: belgaonkar on 2017-02-28 15:51:41
You can buy them here for $10
http://rescuemyclassicmac.com/buyadisk/buyadisk.html
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Posted by: LarBob on 2017-02-28 16:17:30
You can buy them here for $10
http://rescuemyclassicmac.com/buyadisk/buyadisk.html Yeah, the only problem is I want the install diskettes and don't really want to pay $30 for some floppies I'm only going to use once. 😛
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Posted by: SlateBlue on 2017-02-28 16:18:25
You're certain you'll only ever use them once?
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Posted by: LarBob on 2017-02-28 16:20:40
You're certain you'll only ever use them once? Good point... but still, it'd be nice to have another option if possible. I probably will end up just using them once as it's my only system with a non-1.44 mb floppy drive (unless the "new" HD I put in fails, but by that time I'll probably have a floppy emu).
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Posted by: Themk on 2017-02-28 16:40:42
If you have a system with a high density drive, you can use disk copy (or the Finder) to write 800k disks. Now, you might not have any double density media, but if you are really in a pinch, you could try to tape over the high density detect hole (on the diskette), but that may not work.
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Posted by: LarBob on 2017-02-28 17:39:54
If you have a system with a high density drive, you can use disk copy (or the Finder) to write 800k disks. Now, you might not have any double density media, but if you are really in a pinch, you could try to tape over the high density detect hole (on the diskette), but that may not work. Yeah, I've tried that but if I put it in my 6100/60 (which I believe can read/write 800k floppies as well as 1.44 mb) I only get the option to format as 1.44 mb even if the double density hole is taped over... Sorry if I'm doing something stupid but I don't have much knowledge in this area.
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Posted by: techknight on 2017-02-28 17:47:02
Thats odd. You should still get an 800K option unless the OS is too new.
But disk copy doesnt care, it will recognize the double density media when making an image clone, AS LONG AS the sense post switch inside the drive is still good.
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Posted by: Gorgonops on 2017-02-28 17:58:47
By any chance are you trying to use clear tape to tape over the density hole? I don't know specifically about the drives in a particular Mac but some drives use optical sensors, not a physical switch, to determine if the hole is present.
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Posted by: LarBob on 2017-02-28 18:15:56
By any chance are you trying to use clear tape to tape over the density hole? I don't know specifically about the drives in a particular Mac but some drives use optical sensors, not a physical switch, to determine if the hole is present. I thought that was it as first but I put it in again and it recognized it as 800k. My problem now is getting the 800k image on my 6100/60 as it doesn't recognize the images as any type of file it can work with when copied to the floppy from my 10.5 MacBook. I think it's because disk copy isn't present on the system but I don't know how I would manage to get it on there unless there's some way I can directly write a 1.44 mb image of disk copy onto the floppy from my MacBook.
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Posted by: techknight on 2017-02-28 18:29:56
You can open disk copy and do File > Open and load the image that way,Â
Your resource fork TYPE/CREATOR is getting blown away.Â
But disk copy will still recognize the header.Â
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Posted by: Themk on 2017-02-28 18:33:45
You will need disk copy to write a disk copy image on your 6100. You can use your macbook running leopard to download disk copy from the internet, and put it on a disk to install on your PowerMac. BTW, what System are you using on your power mac? After doing that, you can open an 800K disk image on your powermac with disk copy and write it to the floppy.
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Posted by: LarBob on 2017-02-28 18:36:50
You will need disk copy to write a disk copy image on your 6100. You can use your macbook running leopard to download disk copy from the internet, and put it on a disk to install on your PowerMac. BTW, what System are you using on your power mac? After doing that, you can open an 800K disk image on your powermac with disk copy and write it to the floppy. The problem is that I can't find any dsks of disk copy anywhere and it seems like for some reason Leopard is doing something with the resource forks.
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Posted by: techknight on 2017-02-28 18:41:01
Then get the Legacy Recovery CD from the macintosh garden and burn it. It has disk copy.Â
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Posted by: LarBob on 2017-02-28 18:41:22
Then get the Legacy Recovery CD from the macintosh garden and burn it. It has disk copy. Issue with that: The 6100/60's CD drive doesn't work.
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Posted by: Themk on 2017-02-28 18:44:50
Disk Copy is avaliable here (small enough to fit on a 1.44MiB floppy): http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_6.3.3.smi.bin
You will need Stuffit Expander (or similiar) to un-do the macbinary. After that, you are left with a .smi file (which is actually an application). Run that application on your powermac to install Disk Copy. After installing Disk Copy, you should be able to use it to open your disk images and write them!
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Posted by: techknight on 2017-02-28 18:46:56
Issue with that: The 6100/60's CD drive doesn't work. ouy..... OK then... Floppy emu time. 😉
That, or take the CD drive apart and clean the lens. If that fails, then adjust the laser power ever so slightly until it kicks in again.Â
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Posted by: LarBob on 2017-02-28 18:47:19
Disk Copy is avaliable here (small enough to fit on a 1.44MiB floppy): http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_6.3.3.smi.bin
You will need Stuffit Expander (or similiar) to un-do the macbinary. After that, you are left with a .smi file (which is actually an application). Run that application on your powermac to install Disk Copy. After installing Disk Copy, you should be able to use it to read your disk images and write them! Thank you! The Leopard Mac sees disk copy and everything inside...
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Posted by: LarBob on 2017-02-28 18:52:38
Disk Copy is avaliable here (small enough to fit on a 1.44MiB floppy): http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_6.3.3.smi.bin
You will need Stuffit Expander (or similiar) to un-do the macbinary. After that, you are left with a .smi file (which is actually an application). Run that application on your powermac to install Disk Copy. After installing Disk Copy, you should be able to use it to open your disk images and write them! Okay, disk copy doesn't recognize the system tools dsk I have...
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