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| Click here to select a new forum. | | Power Mac 7200/90 Chime but No Video | Posted by: SawtoothG4 on 2026-08-07 14:19:30 I have a Power Mac 7200/90 that has been in the family since new in 1996. About 15 years ago it was put away after it stopped outputting video signal.
Recently I have gotten back into vintage Macs, and I would really like to resurrect this thing given its sentimental value. I plugged it in for the first time in many years, and found that it still does the same thing. After pressing the power button, it chimes, the power LED comes on, drive noise is heard, but no video signal is output. Additionally, when the power button is briefly pressed at any time afterward, the system immediately shuts off, leading me to believe it is not fully booting up.
So far, I have tried everything in the Service Source manual as well as various "common wisdom" troubleshooting items:
- Tried multiple tested known-working monitors and/or DB-15 to VGA adapters
- Reset PRAM
- Replaced the 3.6V battery
- Visually inspected for damaged components, leaking capacitors, corrosion, etc. (None found)
- Reset Cuda chip
- Reset the logic board as per Service Source instructions (remove battery, disconnect power cable from logic board, wait 10 minutes)
- Reseated all DRAM and VRAM modules
- Tried with one DRAM module at a time in various slots
Nothing has worked and it still exhibits the same problem. I am a lot more familiar with troubleshooting New World Macs, so I am at a bit of a stopping point.
Does anyone have any suggestions for what to try next? | Posted by: joevt on 2026-08-07 22:36:38 Connect to another computer using serial cable to modem port. Try entering Open Firmware.
Try a PCI graphics card? | Posted by: SawtoothG4 on 2026-08-08 13:00:07 Until your post I didn’t even think these Old World Macs had OpenFirmware. I just read up on it, I ordered an 8-pin Mini DIN serial cable to try to connect it to my PowerBook 5300c. Any idea how to figure out what settings to use for data rate, etc?
I don’t have any PCI graphics cards but I will see if I can get one and test it. | Posted by: joevt on 2026-08-10 21:03:09 Sorry for my late replay. Forums were unreachable yesterday.
All Power Macs with PCI have Open Firmware.
Default data rate is 38400 bps 8N1 (it's actually 8N2 but 8N1 seems to work). You can set it to 57600 by changing the input device and output device either from the Open Firmware command line:
" ttya:57600" io Or by changing nvram and rebooting:
setenv input-device ttya:57600
setenv output-device ttya:57600
View current nvram settings using:
printenv
There's some notes in the first post at:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ll-work-in-a-beige-power-macintosh-g3.2303689
DingusPPC has Power Mac 7200 emulation, so we can compare output from Open Firmware. | Posted by: SawtoothG4 on 2026-08-11 06:25:13 Well I seem to have resurrected it! This whole time I thought that the L2 cache slot had to be populated for the machine to boot, but it turns out the 7200 came with no L2 cache DIMM and mine had one installed as an upgrade at some point. I tried booting with the cache DIMM removed and it worked! I guess something is wrong with either the cache slot or the DIMM itself.
Thank you @joevt for the OpenFirmware info! I’m sure I will use it. Maybe I can try to troubleshoot the cache DIMM using OF over serial? | Posted by: joevt on 2026-08-11 16:22:57 Which of these ROMs does it have?
077d.28f1.1 96cd923d 045a3b23.04a82e3e.0333e815.0400652a 02c65d54.03175e91.020d323a.027bef10.02a0f232.037e5917.0231da82.029ef77a:c241cd82bf90797a dfebb8fdad4124e02608429d98bf349b "1995-08 - 96CD923D - Power Mac 7200&7500&8500&9500 v1.ROM"
077d.28f2.1 9630c68b 045a3ff2.04a8169b.03334745.03ffe575 02c6b097.0317a71b.020d1a9e.027c620c.02a0a3bd.037df94c.0231514d.029e06b3:4db4a42fea3b53b3 2623a0c438045ea04d2cc67310c97743 "1995-08 - 9630C68B - Power Mac 7200&7500&8500&9500 v2, SuperMac S900.ROM"
All the Open Firmware 1.0.5 ROMs share the same Open Firmware code.
The Hammerhead memory controller has an L2_CACHE_CONFIG register. If there's a cache that is setup, then the device-tree will include a l2-cache device.
The code for setting up this device is more readable in the Apple Network Server 1.1.20.1 ROM.
: make-cpu-properties
...
?tnt
l2-cache
0=
and
if
0f80000e0 \ L2_CACHE_CONFIG
ar-rb@
dup
h#80
and
if
3
and
" "(1312 1416)"
drop
+
c@
1
swap
<<
new-device
" l2-cache"
device-name
" cache"
device-type
dup
encode-int
" i-cache-size"
property
dup
encode-int
" d-cache-size"
property
5
>>
dup
encode-int
" i-cache-sets"
property
encode-int
" d-cache-sets"
property
0
0
" cache-unified"
property
active-package
to l2-cache
finish-device
else
drop
then
then
l2-cache
?dup
if
encode-int
" l2-cache"
property
then
;
The Hammerhead ERS document describes the Hammerhead memory controller.
https://tinkerdifferent.com/threads/apple-network-server-macos-based-roms-found.4756/post-41404 | | 1 |
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