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How do I connect a Macintosh SE/30 to the Internet ?
Posted by: zanthya on 2016-09-27 18:47:29
Hi everyone,

I own a Macintosh SE/30 with 5MB of RAM, 200MB HDD running with System 7.0

I know it's possible to connect one of these machines to the internet but I'm aware that's it's not an easy task !

Basically, all I know is that I need an ethernet/SCSI card.

But I have no idea precisely what kind of ethernet card I need. And I don't know which software to use.

Could you guys give me some advices ? I didn't manage to find any tutorial about this subject.

Thanks !
Posted by: techknight on 2016-09-27 18:52:46
There is a thread which is a sticky so it doesnt move at the top of this forum. Called: 

The Definitive Guide to Connecting your SE/30. I would look there. Also not covered in that document is MacIPGW, I would look into this solution as well. 
Posted by: bobo68 on 2016-10-06 15:04:15
Basically, all I know is that I need an ethernet/SCSI card.
You do not need one of the very rare SCSI-Ethernet adapters. There are PDS slot cards available like the Asante MacCon+ 30i.
Posted by: tact on 2016-10-07 12:00:12
I got my se30 online using a cheap 10$  56k Dialup modem and a setup I already had to get my dreamcast online using dialup internet.

Using a raspberry pi and a usb modem with a line voltage inducer. Its called DreamPi . its mostly used for dreamcast but I guess it can be used to get anything dialup online to your home network.

I also started modifying the usb modems with a built in usb powered lvi to power the line. Its just a 9v dc source with a 1uf capacitor 330ohm resistor induced across the Ring1 wire of the phone line. very simple and cheap setup =)

The Dreampi makes everything automatic its wonderful Check it out! just search for it

I didn't think the scsi to ethernet adapters are worth it only if i found one for 20 bucks , I mean how fast could it really be. dialup seemed fast enough for an ol mac

(Those that don't know, some sega dreamcast games can Still be played online! and people are working on restoring private servers for more and more games these days, and with a vga cable the dreamcast in HD is still holding up to this day!! lots of people picking up their old consoles to play good games the way it used to be =p)
Posted by: CC_333 on 2016-10-22 14:36:44
tact: So, this device will take a dialup device, like, say, a PowerBook's internal modem, and allow it to communicate with the internet over a high speed connection? Or is it the reverse (taking a device that expects a high speed connection and allowing it to connect via dialup)?

I will have to look into this, as normal dialup (which I wouldn't mind exploring, as a curiosity, if nothing else) is basically impossible for me now that our landline has been abandoned (not by choice though; there was a screwup at the phone company's end).

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Posted by: tact on 2016-10-26 10:33:58
I think the answer is Yes? lol

Ya it's basically making your own dialup connection that you can connect to your own lan or internet yes.

Its great for everyone these days that don't have landlines and also can't really use dialup for games either.

As I stated it was designed for use with a dreamcast but it should work with just about any other dialup device.

All you need is:

A raspberry Pi model 1b or newer and install the dreampi software

A usb 56k modem natively compatible with linux.

(some good models include the trendnet tfm56, and rd02-d400 modems)

And you will most likely need to make or purchase a Line Voltage Inducer to power the phone line.

can find plenty of info about them by searching

I also started making my own USB Powered LVI Modems just for this.

This is how small and simple it is.

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Posted by: tact on 2016-10-26 10:37:12
Oh this guy shows a tutorial about it and other great videos =)
Posted by: Johnnya101 on 2016-10-26 13:25:16
Wait a minute, hold on. I can trick dial up only things to use ethernet/ dsl or whatever using the pi?

 
Posted by: CC_333 on 2016-10-29 22:40:09
This is neat!

I think I finally have found a reason to go get a Pi!

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Posted by: mactjaap on 2016-11-15 00:04:40
Consider my MacIPgw solution. Read all about it on http://www.macip.net

Also as a (Orange) Pi

http://www.macip.net/?page_id=113
Posted by: BadGoldEagle on 2016-11-15 04:44:59
Does it mean my SE/30 can connect to the internet using this thing??
Posted by: tact on 2016-11-15 12:40:37
what is that?
Posted by: BadGoldEagle on 2016-11-15 14:06:10
This my friend is an Apple Djinn. You won't find it in the US as the Djinn was only sold in France. Back in the day Apple had a deal with France Telecom (French AT&T). The result was the Apple Djinn, the Djinn Pro and the Powerbop.

More about it here: http://www.journaldulapin.com/2011/11/03/the-apple-djinn-an-unknown-product/

So by plugging a 56k modem to a Pi, I should be able to get this baby back online, right?

You should write a how-to. It's not great. This is insanely great!
Posted by: tact on 2016-11-15 23:05:41
well as long as that is just a standard dialup modem it should connect just fine. =)

however if thats only 2400baud i do recommend 56k at least will get about 33k speed.

and if you're not going to use it for a dreamcast you can disable the dreamcast now feature.

by the way we just got Alien Front Online Revived as well using the pi connection ;D with voice chat!

and there's plenty of how-to's on dreampi all over check out that video.
Posted by: BadGoldEagle on 2016-12-20 10:25:52
Mine's the "Pro" version. It's a 14400 baud modem. Blisteringly fast in other words  😛

I think all 56k modems are more or less identical. Even though the Djinn used some Djinn-specific software (Apple Telecom) I hope the Raspberry Pi hack will work with that modem. I think this software is all about Minitel integration. Yes, you could use your Mac as a Minitel in the early 90s (but only in France). 

More info on the Minitel (if you're wondering what I am on about)
Posted by: Rajel on 2017-03-22 12:20:12
I also started making my own USB Powered LVI Modems just for this.

This is how small and simple it is.
I've had all the bits to make a DreamPi for some time, the LVI's been the thorn in my side. I have that Dell USB modem, how are you modifying it for direct LVI?

I've got a PB160 that's gotta get online!
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