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| Looking for Crocodile Clips, an Educational Circuit Simulator |
Posted by: Phipli on 2024-01-14 08:32:46 Hey folks, as a kid I used a circuit simulator (and basic mechanical stuff like gears) in school called "Crocodile Clips". There was actually a Mac version which I downloaded the demo of version 3.5 back in the day... And still have it seems (I'll put it on the garden after I move it from vintage to modern hardware).
Does anyone happen to have a copy of the full version? The demo restricts saving and the number of components sadly. Not actually usable for much, even casually. It isn't just a case that they disabled the menu options with ResEdit either. |
Posted by: Phipli on 2024-01-14 08:38:09 Excuse the flicker, I'm using original hardware and my camera doesn't appreciate 67hz refresh rates.
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Posted by: Phipli on 2024-01-14 09:09:23 Ok, I found the attached download and associated page on wayback
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Posted by: Phipli on 2024-01-14 09:19:51 So this one looks to be a simplified version that they offered for free for a while. It uses pictures of components instead of schematic symbols, and doesn't have as many parts (for example, this version doesn't include the 555 timer).
On the other hand, it does let you use more components and it does let you save. You win some, you lose some.
Still looking for the proper full program if anyone has a copy!
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Posted by: LaPorta on 2024-01-14 09:39:04 I’d like to find it as well. This looks really cool…and more fun in an electrical sense than Widget Workshop. |
Posted by: chelseayr on 2024-01-14 11:25:02 on a half-related half-offtopic note this is what is somewhat interesting about the way they did (and sometimes still do) things .. some people would simply retract features/libraries from the fullsize version so its only a matter of adding the license file/key [with or without downloading a larger library/data folder to go with it at the same time], while others would rather write a separate new app from the ground up which seem compatible yet is very different in its own small/limited ways
and i'm guess that the v3.5 demo falls in to the latter kind of category
@LaPorta haha I guess you could indeed do circuits in widget workshop but it seem more like for 'scientific fun' things than to really make working circuits with tho? although its render of electrical gates is quite realistic on the other hand |
Posted by: Phipli on 2024-01-14 11:39:14
on a half-related half-offtopic note this is what is somewhat interesting about the way they did (and sometimes still do) things .. some people would simply retract features/libraries from the fullsize version so its only a matter of adding the license file/key [with or without downloading a larger library/data folder to go with it at the same time], while others would rather write a separate new app from the ground up which seem compatible yet is very different in its own small/limited ways The demo and the cut down version are both based around the same version, so I was going to compare resources (there don't seem to be external library files). I would have already, but the PSU in the IIvx is showing signs of being on its last legs so I'm not going to power it on again until I've done some maintenance on it.
I'll need to set up another appropriate machine to do more investigation. |
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