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Rehousing a B&W into a Sawtooth case?
Posted by: Quadraman on 2023-08-19 05:10:11
Would anyone know if this is possible? I hate Bondi blue. đŸ˜‚
Posted by: CircuitBored on 2023-08-19 05:17:25
If it's an actual Sawtooth (late 1999 PowerMac 3,1) then I'm not sure all the rear plastic parts line up correctly.

If it's the first-generation PCI PowerMac G4 (PowerMac 1,2) then you can swap everything over, even the logic boards.

My question is: why would you do that? Just sell the B&W and buy a G4.
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-08-19 05:18:54
What you are describing is a Yikes G4. There are differences from the Sawtooth though.

They're basically a rev b B&W G3 in a graphite case. You could even swap in your G3 processor.
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-08-19 05:22:50
See the picture here :


Not sure how different the internals are, but I don't suspect too much as you'd want to limit variations of parts for manufacturing.
Posted by: Quadraman on 2023-08-19 05:51:31
Is the Yikes the first one? I thought the Sawtooth was first. I meant whichever one was the first G4 after the B&W. I thought the Yikes just used a modified B&W motherboard, that's why I thought they'd be similar enough to rehouse a B&W into the case.
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-08-19 05:53:36
Is the Yikes the first one? I thought the Sawtooth was first. I meant whichever one was the first G4 after the B&W
They were concurrent - the Yikes was the bottom end and reused the G3 logic board (i.e. PCI graphics). The Sawtooth used a new board, new CPU socket, and AGP graphics.
Posted by: cobalt60 on 2023-08-19 23:01:02
Cant just the panels and handles be swapped with a Sawtooth/Gigabit?

Yikes G4s are fairly rare
Posted by: volvo242gt on 2023-08-20 00:41:17
Pretty sure they can.
Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2023-08-20 02:16:16
Would anyone know if this is possible? I hate Bondi blue.
My question is: why would you do that? Just sell the B&W and buy a G4.
My answer is rather hypocritical because I am building a Blue & Silver G3 as well as a Black & White G4. The process is *very* time-consuming and I'm running a big rishḱ in breaking something, shorting something or simply invoking karma.

That being said, CircuitBored's advice is the simplest & best. B&W G3s are relatively easy to sell because lots of people love the colour scheme and it is not at all a bad Mac OS 8.6/9.1 machine. It's also very expandable.

Sawtooths (Sawteeth?) are also relatively easy to buy. In fact, you may even be able to organise a swap with a member on the fora here for teh cost of shipping.
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