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Font & Size of the letters G3 on the Blue & White case
Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2023-06-12 05:37:42 Does anyone know what typeface is used and what size the letters G3 are?
Posted by: MacUp72 on 2023-06-14 01:27:30 those?..hard to tell without stripping the machine..obviously a very fat serifless linear antiqua.
Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2023-06-14 02:28:29 Exactly. Which is what I did and forgot to measure them. I'd rather not strip my machine again, if I can help it. I'm really hoping that this question has been answered before. By serifless, do you mean sans-serif or a serif'd type with its serifs manually removed in Illustrator? I'll have a look at the Antiqua type families.
Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2023-06-14 04:43:51 @Danamania Hi Dana, do you have these details offhand? Did you calculate them when you made your G3 Cube?
Posted by: capa150 on 2023-06-14 13:45:22 Try running it through the website What The Font.
Posted by: sfiera on 2023-06-14 19:52:18 It looks a lot like Helvetica Black to me, though maybe slightly more rounded on the G.
Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2023-06-14 21:27:55 Try running it through the website What The Font. That is a very good idea. I tried it just now with the picture MacUp72 supplied above but it is too vague. I'll go hunting for better pictures after work tonight.
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-06-15 00:04:39 That is a very good idea. I tried it just now with the picture MacUp72 supplied above but it is too vague. I'll go hunting for better pictures after work tonight. The issue is going to be that you only have two characters - it will struggle to narrow it down.
Posted by: sfiera on 2023-06-15 04:12:27 There’s a Yahoo Auction for just the metal casing, with this photo: It still looks like a very near match to Helvetica Black to me. Not perfect, but I can’t tell if it’s just the angle of the photo or something more.
Posted by: mg.man on 2023-06-15 05:00:24 I can't help with the type and size, but as it happened I'm replacing a cracked side panel today, so snapped you these : 🙂
Posted by: Chuckdubuque on 2023-06-15 05:49:52 Your best bet is to find a close enough font, take it into a program like Adobe illustrator, put the scan above into a translucent locked layer, on the main layer type G3, adjust size and letter spacing to match the scan as much as possible, then convert to outlines. You can then tweak the outlines to match the treatment on the case as closely as possible. Delete the scan layer, export as something like SVG, and use that. It is highly unlikely that this is an unmodified off the shelf font so the likelihood of finding an exact font match is not high. But most of these logo treatments are based on a font and then customized for the particular application and size. I imagine Jobs and Ives arguing two weeks about the shape of the G.
Posted by: sfiera on 2023-06-15 06:15:55 The 3 looks like a near-perfect match to Helvetica Black, but the G doesn’t quite line up. There are a few adjustments, condensing it slightly and straightening the lower stem of the G.
Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2023-06-15 06:54:45 I imagine Jobs and Ives arguing two weeks about the shape of the G. 🙂 I can well imagine that happening. And, in those two weeks, nothing was more important to either of them. Well done everyone and especially @mg.man! This is super. Woudl you do me the favour of measuring the height of the letters please? As it happens, the 3 will turned into a 4 and the other side will have a QS. I have a Blue & Silver G3 and I have the parts for a Black & White G4 with a Quicksilver motherboard that has just come my way.
Posted by: mg.man on 2023-06-15 07:11:09 Woudl you do me the favour of measuring the height of the letters please? Wish you'd gotten back sooner... it's back together now. 😞
Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2023-06-15 07:44:54 Wish you'd gotten back sooner... it's back together now. 😞 Don't worry about it. It won't be hard to get.
Posted by: capa150 on 2023-06-15 12:23:52 I can't help with the type and size, but as it happened I'm replacing a cracked side panel today, so snapped you these : View attachment 57991 View attachment 57992 View attachment 57993 🙂 Is that a G4?
Posted by: MacUp72 on 2023-06-15 12:30:09 Helvetica Black is a good match, a bit of twisting and bending and its good.. I noticed that with the earlier PowerBook font, it's basis is a Adobe Garamond Pro bold but it certainly was altered.
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-06-15 13:29:50 Helvetica Black is a good match, a bit of twisting and bending and its good.. I noticed that with the earlier PowerBook font, it's basis is a Adobe Garamond Pro bold but it certainly was altered. View attachment 58005 Apple's corporate font was a variation of Garamond called Apple Garamond for many years. Most of their adverts and case test and manual covers and other stuff were Apple Garamond through the 80s and 90s at least.
Posted by: Crutch on 2023-06-15 13:32:07 Apple Garamond is a variant of ITC Garamond, condensed and with a taller x-height (clearly visible in @MacUp72’s image above), and actually predates Adobe Garamond by several years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typography_of_Apple_Inc.#Apple_Garamond At least Wikipedia says Adobe Garamond was released in 1989, and Apple used it going back to (at least) the original Macintosh in 1984. Also I remember from the ‘90s hearing it referenced as a flavor of ITC Garamond, never Adobe Garamond.
Posted by: dcr on 2023-06-15 13:37:44 The 3 looks like a near-perfect match to Helvetica Black, but the G doesn’t quite line up. There are a few adjustments, condensing it slightly and straightening the lower stem of the G. Compare it to Triumvirate Heavy from Agfa Type.
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