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| Click here to select a new forum. | | OS X DP2 installation issue | Posted by: LarBob on 2016-06-25 17:12:09
I have a 350 MHz Power Mac G4 and I'm trying to install DP2 on it. It boots to the installer fine however it doesn't detect the hard disk, only Mac_OS_X which I'm guessing is the CD. If I try to install to that it just halts the system. Any ideas? According to the install guide it supports "currently shipping" Power Mac G4s and I'm pretty sure that this one was at the time.
| Posted by: Elfen on 2016-06-25 20:47:33
Go to the Utilities Menu and go to DiskTools and check the partitions of the hard drive. Repartition it and format the hard drive and see what happens.
We can hope that things will go well at this point.
If not, it is a standard IDE/ATA (PATA) Hard Drive, you can get a fairly new one on ebay for next to nothing on these drives on ebay. PATA-SSD, CF2IDE and other options you can also use.
| Posted by: LarBob on 2016-06-25 21:19:16
Go to the Utilities Menu and go to DiskTools and check the partitions of the hard drive. Repartition it and format the hard drive and see what happens.
We can hope that things will go well at this point.
If not, it is a standard IDE/ATA (PATA) Hard Drive, you can get a fairly new one on ebay for next to nothing on these drives on ebay. PATA-SSD, CF2IDE and other options you can also use. The drive works, the installer just doesn't recognize it. I've tested it with 8.6, 9.0, 9.2.2, 10.4, etc.
| Posted by: bibilit on 2016-06-26 01:31:52
As Elfen said before, format the drive, if not recognized, maybe you have a master-slave bad conf.
| Posted by: Cory5412 on 2016-06-26 10:41:02
Are there any notes about system support on the DP2 installation CD? It is possible that Power Macintosh G4s simply weren't supported by DP2. How this would probably manifest itself is that on the Yikes! G4 (the only version I'm aware of that shipped with a /350MHz CPU), it would boot and work until you encountered the bits that were different from the Yosemite Power Macintosh G3, the IDE controller and possibly the Firewire controller.
In the Rhapsody era, Apple often didn't support certain Macs and configurations because it considered them inappropriate for Rhapsody/OSX Server. Thisi ncluded the PowerBooks 2400/3400 and anything with a 603 in it. You could get it to run by checking a box acknowledging unsupported/incompatible hardware.
Also, out of interest, when is the readme dated? The Rhapsody releases at the time all provide very specific information about what hardware is supported (and often, details about how your USB keyboard/mouse should be connected) -- does the DP2 readme provide that information?
| Posted by: LarBob on 2016-06-26 12:50:22
Are there any notes about system support on the DP2 installation CD? It is possible that Power Macintosh G4s simply weren't supported by DP2. How this would probably manifest itself is that on the Yikes! G4 (the only version I'm aware of that shipped with a /350MHz CPU), it would boot and work until you encountered the bits that were different from the Yosemite Power Macintosh G3, the IDE controller and possibly the Firewire controller.
In the Rhapsody era, Apple often didn't support certain Macs and configurations because it considered them inappropriate for Rhapsody/OSX Server. Thisi ncluded the PowerBooks 2400/3400 and anything with a 603 in it. You could get it to run by checking a box acknowledging unsupported/incompatible hardware.
Also, out of interest, when is the readme dated? The Rhapsody releases at the time all provide very specific information about what hardware is supported (and often, details about how your USB keyboard/mouse should be connected) -- does the DP2 readme provide that information? The install manual says it works with currently shipping Power Mac G4s. The readme is dated for October of 1999, I bet that's why.
But by that logic, DP3 should work as its readme is from January 2000. This Power Mac is from December 1999. Maybe they just didn't add the drivers for it until DP4?
Is there some kind of way to get it to work?
| Posted by: Cory5412 on 2016-06-27 07:41:33
Mmh, if this is a December 1999 350MHz Power Macintosh G3 ("Sawtooth") then it should work, if the document says "currently shipping Power Mac G4s" (or some variation on that theme) because the sawtooth was shipping earlier in the year.
The Sawtooth/AGP Power Macintosh G4s were introduced and shipping on August 31, 1999, and the Yikes/PCI Power Macintosh G4s started shipping on October 13. In December, the line was shaken up just a little bit as the PCI graphics option was replaced with AGP graphics systems at the same CPU speeds.
And just to confirm, the hard disk is connected to the motherboard and not to any other kind of expansion card?
| Posted by: LarBob on 2016-06-27 09:19:54
Mmh, if this is a December 1999 350MHz Power Macintosh G3 ("Sawtooth") then it should work, if the document says "currently shipping Power Mac G4s" (or some variation on that theme) because the sawtooth was shipping earlier in the year.
The Sawtooth/AGP Power Macintosh G4s were introduced and shipping on August 31, 1999, and the Yikes/PCI Power Macintosh G4s started shipping on October 13. In December, the line was shaken up just a little bit as the PCI graphics option was replaced with AGP graphics systems at the same CPU speeds.
And just to confirm, the hard disk is connected to the motherboard and not to any other kind of expansion card? Nope, it's connected to the motherboard.
| Posted by: bibilit on 2016-06-28 00:42:43
I have made several G4 installations, never had any issue, if the Hard Drive is fine, the motherboard has a problem or your CD-Rom drive is bad.
The last installations i have done, only used an USB drive.
I you have another machine, make the installation first and slide the Hard drive on the G4.
| Posted by: LarBob on 2016-06-28 07:37:15
I'm sure it's not something wrong on the hardware side
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