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Ethernet for my Performa 6360
Posted by: mloret on 2023-05-19 08:12:29
Hey guys,

I recently picked up an Apple 10/100 Base T ethernet card and I popped it in my Performa 6360 in the hopes of connecting the machine to the internet. No dice. I tried in OS 7.6 and 8.1. I did FULL install of the system software for both 7.6 and 8.1 in the hopes that it would install the correct Ethernet driver, but the computer isn't registering that there's anything there. When I go to TCP/IP control panel, Ethernet is not an option.

This is the first ancient computer I've tried to take online, and honestly, I am not 100% sure what I'm doing. I'm probably missing something obvious. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or ideas on what I'm doing wrong.
Posted by: macuserman on 2023-05-19 08:25:05
Hey guys,

I recently picked up an Apple 10/100 Base T ethernet card and I popped it in my Performa 6360 in the hopes of connecting the machine to the internet. No dice. I tried in OS 7.6 and 8.1. I did FULL install of the system software for both 7.6 and 8.1 in the hopes that it would install the correct Ethernet driver, but the computer isn't registering that there's anything there. When I go to TCP/IP control panel, Ethernet is not an option.

This is the first ancient computer I've tried to take online, and honestly, I am not 100% sure what I'm doing. I'm probably missing something obvious. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or ideas on what I'm doing wrong.
If the card is compatible it should just show up, I thought the ethernet stuff was just bundled in by default. I just tested a CS II card and when I added it to the machine it just showed up in system profiler without me doing anything.
Posted by: mloret on 2023-05-19 09:21:03
If the card is compatible it should just show up, I thought the ethernet stuff was just bundled in by default. I just tested a CS II card and when I added it to the machine it just showed up in system profiler without me doing anything.
Nope, it's not showing up. Maybe there's something amiss with the card or the PCI slot on the logic board. However, the LEDs light up.
Posted by: macuserman on 2023-05-19 10:51:03
Nope, it's not showing up. Maybe there's something amiss with the card or the PCI slot on the logic board. However, the LEDs light up.
Do you have an OSX machine you can try it in? Is it possible the card you purchased only works under OSX? Might be worthwhile to find a CSII card although they are quite a bit more expensive.
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-05-19 11:33:21
Oh wait, PCI? Why did I think it was CS?
Posted by: mloret on 2023-05-19 11:36:33
Yeah it's defintely PCI. I have a Hackintosh that I'm running OS X on as well as an iMac G4. Not sure if either of those would run that card. Maybe it's not compatible?
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-05-19 11:43:23
Yeah it's defintely PCI. I have a Hackintosh that I'm running OS X on as well as an iMac G4. Not sure if either of those would run that card. Maybe it's not compatible?
Truth be told, a large number of PCI cards I've bought have been damaged by poor storage and postage. I often need to solder pins back down on any big quad flat package chips.

So, first things first, clean the edge connector. If that doesn't work, use a scalpel to ping each pin on any big QFP chips to see if they're not attached to the board.
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-05-19 11:44:32
Is it this (upside-down) card?
Posted by: mloret on 2023-05-19 12:30:16
yes that's it
Posted by: mloret on 2023-05-19 17:34:03
Okay I got a little closer. I did some internet research and read that this card needs the Enet driver. I don’t think I saw that in my OS 8.1 installer so I grabbed it out of an 8.5 disk. When I added the Enet extension, Ethernet shows up in TCP/IP settings. But not much else. Not sure what settings I need. I looked at system profiler, and it looks better! Still not right though. Help?
Posted by: mdeverhart on 2023-05-21 18:07:13
What is it that doesn’t look right or isn’t working?

From the images it looks like the driver is loading, the card is detected, TCP/IP is set to Ethernet, and you’re getting DHCP settings from your router (obviously I have no way of knowing if they are the correct settings or not). It seems like things should be working.
Posted by: mloret on 2023-05-22 07:57:06
When I launched Internet Explorer, it was trying; to get to a live.apple page and I was getting a security error. When I tried Macintoshgarden.org, it worked. Can't get it to work in Os 7.6 though.
Posted by: treellama on 2023-05-22 08:23:08
No page with modern security (including apple.com) will load on ancient browsers.

theoldnet.com and frogfind.com will be your friends with ancient browsers
Posted by: Forrest on 2023-05-22 10:54:23
You will have difficulty browsing the internet on a computer running older than OSX 10.4 because older web browsers can’t handle the security settings ie. Https. If you are running OSX 10.4 or 10.5, then you can browse using TenFourFox or InterwebPPC https://github.com/wicknix/InterWebPPC
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