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Performa 6360 and BlueSCSI
Posted by: mloret on 2023-03-30 13:49:56
Hey guys. I have a couple BlueSCSI 1.1’s that connect via db25. Both will work on the Performa 6300CD I am trying to sell. Unfortunately neither seem to work on the Performa 6360 that just arrived. They seem to have a solid blue LED and everything gets hung up at the beginning almost as though there is an image conflict. I tried different images and it still did the same.

Anyone know how to resolve this issue? If not, are you aware of a solution for getting downloaded software from a modern computer to something from the mid 90’s? I’m not burning disks or making floppies.
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-03-30 14:09:41
First thing to do is verify how termination is set up.

6360s and similar are a little frustrating because apple couldn't imaging a world where home users would need a network other than LocalTalk.

You could drop a PCI ethernet card in it, but I tend to use Ethernet or burn CDs sorry.
Posted by: Skate323k137 on 2023-03-30 14:57:19
Are you sure the machine doesn't have an internal drive with a conflicting scsi ID?
Posted by: 3lectr1cPPC on 2023-03-30 15:39:49
By 6360 era I’m fairly certain internal drives were IDE.
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-03-30 16:00:34
By 6360 era I’m fairly certain internal drives were IDE.
Just the hard disk and only on consumer macs like the 6360. The CD and Zip were SCSI (zip only in towers), and Pro macs were completely SCSI until the G3.
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2023-03-30 16:21:04
CD-ROM would be SCSI3 as the default. No other SCSI devices in the 6360.

Why waste a SCSI converter on your IDE equipped 6360? IDE in those machines is at least equal to or even very slightly better than SCSI performance. Save it for a SCSI impaired Mac. 😉

IDE to SD/CF converters are inexpensive.
Posted by: Skate323k137 on 2023-03-30 18:43:47
CD-ROM would be SCSI3 as the default. No other SCSI devices in the 6360.

Why waste a SCSI converter on your IDE equipped 6360? IDE in those machines is at least equal to or even very slightly better than SCSI performance. Save it for a SCSI impaired Mac. 😉

IDE to SD/CF converters are inexpensive.
Solid point, IDE to CF is a great way to go if you can, especially for classic OS.
Posted by: mloret on 2023-03-31 12:01:15
CD-ROM would be SCSI3 as the default. No other SCSI devices in the 6360.

Why waste a SCSI converter on your IDE equipped 6360? IDE in those machines is at least equal to or even very slightly better than SCSI performance. Save it for a SCSI impaired Mac. 😉

IDE to SD/CF converters are inexpensive.
I am taking this advice, thank you!
Posted by: mloret on 2023-03-31 12:02:21
Are you sure the machine doesn't have an internal drive with a conflicting scsi ID?
Tried that. And tried with two different bluescsis. It's def the computer.
Posted by: mloret on 2023-03-31 12:04:48
Here's what I found when I pulled the logic board. Oops. How does that even happen? Sure, I've blown a cap when I soldered it in backwards BUT who else would do that?!
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-03-31 12:06:54
Here's what I found when I pulled the logic board. Oops. How does that even happen? Sure, I've blown a cap when I soldered it in backwards BUT who else would do that?!
Sometimes they just pop 🙁
Posted by: mloret on 2023-03-31 12:08:51
Sometimes they just pop 🙁
I'm hopin that will resolve the issue with the BlueSCSI misbehaving.
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2023-04-01 08:02:14
I am taking this advice, thank you!
You're welcome! CF is what I'm using in my 6400/6500 testbed and love the flexibility. Enjoy!

Refurb 6360 was my graphics workstation in the day. I removed the speaker, bent the harness support bar down and installed a full length Radius graphics card for 1600x1200. Fabulous machine built on a very tight budget, especially so after the final, pre-planned Sonnet G3 upgrade.
Posted by: mloret on 2023-04-01 09:09:22
Oh a sonnet upgrade sounds good. Does the g3 card go in the PCI slot? What did you use as a storage solution? Platter HDD?
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-04-01 09:14:48
Oh a sonnet upgrade sounds good. Does the g3 card go in the PCI slot? What did you use as a storage solution? Platter HDD?
Sonnet card goes in the Cache slot on the 6360.
Posted by: mloret on 2023-04-01 09:49:10
Very cool. I’ll keep my eyes out for one.
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2023-04-01 10:00:36
CF was only a two or three years old in that time frame. IDE drives of fairly high capacities were reasonably priced, so that was the way of it. With adapter/CF card price points these days it's a no brainer. I'll add that a PCMCIA adapter/CF is my go to for PB190 and PPC PowerBook testing. Haven't installed one internally as yet, most of my spinning drives have remained operable. PowerBook 150 will probably be the first use case.
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