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Releasing AirTalk: Wireless plug-and-play LocalTalk dongle
Posted by: daanvdl on 2023-03-25 09:19:54 What is AirTalk? AirTalk is a dongle that extends a LocalTalk (or PhoneNet, or equivalent) network over WiFi. AirTalk is a device designed by @cheesestraws and make use of the TashTalk PIC controller created by @tashtari . AirTalk is user friendly and plug and play. It requires no software on the Mac or LocalTalk device to use it, the Chooser extension only sets it up, so it will work with things like printers or routers as well as with Macs. You can even connect to a Mini vMac emulator (with the beta LocaLTalk option enabled) on your WiFi network! It has a serial port, where you can either plug in a modem cable to a single LocalTalk device (Mac, printer, router, etc) or plug a LocalTalk or PhoneNet box in to add it to the end of a whole LocalTalk network. It can either get its power from Micro USB or from an ADB passthrough. Again, This project did never exists without all hard work of @cheesestraws (Hardware + Software) and @tashtari (LocalTalk controller). In the next few days i will finish and share a small website for buying a complete AirTalk, DIY kits and the needed programming accessoires. I am going to sell these on non-profit base, but I need to earn back the investment of making this possible. My time is limited, but i will try to wrap up and finish all the work as soon as possible. More info will follow. Happy AirTalking!
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2023-03-25 09:28:54 Your case design for these looks really nice and I'm really pleased you're making them!
Posted by: robin-fo on 2023-03-25 09:52:18 Is there, except the case of course, a difference to the ones made by cheesestraws?
Posted by: Iesca on 2023-03-25 10:30:16 Looks great!
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2023-03-27 06:06:54 Is there, except the case of course, a difference to the ones made by cheesestraws? I believe @daanvdl 's plan is to have a more "beginner-friendly" kit which contains all you need to get started with it, as opposed to my "fling a couple of boxes in a cardboard box and send you a link to github" approach. Sounds like a good thing to me!
Posted by: daanvdl on 2023-03-28 02:41:15 Hi all, As promised, hereby a order link: https://airtalk.shop/ DIY-kits are currently only available in purple. Fully assembled and tested AirTalks ('AirTalk Pro') are available in black. I managed to bulk buy PICKIT3's, 'Crosswired Serial Cables' and 'ADB cables' for very good prices, so you can add them to your order if necessary. Shipping is currently, but not exclusively, limited to: Netherlands Belgium Germany UK France Spain Italy United States Switzerland (Just send me a PM when you are missing a certain country. If possible if will add the missing country) Except for DIY kits (waiting for new PCB assembly) I will do my best to ship orders within 1 working day starting from upcoming Monday. I am also employed and have a family 🙂 I'm working on non-profit base, so please accept minor imperfections. I've taken the chance of adding remnants of private projects (BlueSCSI v1.1/v2, DRAM tester, 32bit ROM) so I can finally free up some space for new projects 🙂 I would like to thank @cheesestraws again for the great cooperation to make this happen! Cheers, Daan
Posted by: AEChadwick on 2023-04-10 18:44:02 includes a floppy! that's some top shelf service right there, someone that knows their market.
Posted by: Iesca on 2023-04-10 19:41:05 Would the 3D-printed case fit the original AirTalks from cheesestraws?
Posted by: daanvdl on 2023-04-11 12:23:29 includes a floppy! that's some top shelf service right there, someone that knows their market. Thank you! I appreciate your positive response! Enjoy it!
Posted by: daanvdl on 2023-04-11 12:25:28 Would the 3D-printed case fit the original AirTalks from cheesestraws? Yes it will fit, but the acrylic glass top is custom cut and drilled. At the moment I have no plans to sell the houses separately to keep my stock organized! 🙂
Posted by: Iesca on 2023-04-11 13:14:37 Yes it will fit, but the acrylic glass top is custom cut and drilled. At the moment I have no plans to sell the houses separately to keep my stock organized! 🙂 No worries!
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2023-04-11 14:08:17 That floppy is a great touch. :-D
Posted by: MindWalker on 2023-04-12 08:53:43 Got mine today. It's a VERY polished product, and it worked straight out of the box! Thanks to all the people involved in the design! 👍 Really neat the way you used the included iPhone-style pick for pressing the buttons 😀
Posted by: DiskJockey on 2023-05-20 08:57:30 Will it retain its settings when powered off? I assume I need a Mac to set it up but I want to remove the Mac normally and just use it with my IIgs along with RPi - it speaks DDP for use with netatalk 2.x?
Posted by: DiskJockey on 2023-05-21 10:43:34 Hoping to connect it to my AirPort Express station and see my RPI (wired) running netatalk from my IIGS - is this doable?
Posted by: jazzius on 2023-06-02 18:40:03 What is AirTalk? AirTalk is a dongle that extends a LocalTalk (or PhoneNet, or equivalent) network over WiFi. AirTalk is a device designed by @cheesestraws and make use of the TashTalk PIC controller created by @tashtari . AirTalk is user friendly and plug and play. It requires no software on the Mac or LocalTalk device to use it, the Chooser extension only sets it up, so it will work with things like printers or routers as well as with Macs. You can even connect to a Mini vMac emulator (with the beta LocaLTalk option enabled) on your WiFi network! It has a serial port, where you can either plug in a modem cable to a single LocalTalk device (Mac, printer, router, etc) or plug a LocalTalk or PhoneNet box in to add it to the end of a whole LocalTalk network. It can either get its power from Micro USB or from an ADB passthrough. Again, This project did never exists without all hard work of @cheesestraws (Hardware + Software) and @tashtari (LocalTalk controller). In the next few days i will finish and share a small website for buying a complete AirTalk, DIY kits and the needed programming accessoires. I am going to sell these on non-profit base, but I need to earn back the investment of making this possible. My time is limited, but i will try to wrap up and finish all the work as soon as possible. More info will follow. Happy AirTalking! View attachment 54216 It's really awesome this has a webpage finally. I live in America, but this still makes it significantly easier to order! Also, what's the difference between the Airtalk and the Airtalk Pro? Does the Pro simply have a black PCB and an improved case or does it actually have better hardware specifications?
Posted by: daanvdl on 2023-06-03 04:35:12 Will it retain its settings when powered off? I assume I need a Mac to set it up but I want to remove the Mac normally and just use it with my IIgs along with RPi - it speaks DDP for use with netatalk 2.x? Hi DiskJockey! I suggest to have a look on my support site: https://www.airtalk.support/faq/. It will store the settings, so the AirTalk retain its settings when powered off. You can use both a modern browser of the MacOS Chooser for setup. Hope this will answer your question! Regards, Daan
Posted by: daanvdl on 2023-06-03 04:41:47 It's really awesome this has a webpage finally. I live in America, but this still makes it significantly easier to order! Also, what's the difference between the Airtalk and the Airtalk Pro? Does the Pro simply have a black PCB and an improved case or does it actually have better hardware specifications? Hi Jazzius, I called it the 'Pro' version because of the improved experience and look and feel. It includes a floppy with software, ADB powercable and resetting tool. The specifications remains the same between all the available versions. Due to the extensive testing, I can guarantee that the "Pro" version will work in one go without any hassle. With the DIY-kit you are on your own🙂 Regards, Daan
Posted by: jazzius on 2023-06-03 12:03:56 Hi Jazzius, I called it the 'Pro' version because of the improved experience and look and feel. It includes a floppy with software, ADB powercable and resetting tool. The specifications remains the same between all the available versions. Due to the extensive testing, I can guarantee that the "Pro" version will work in one go without any hassle. With the DIY-kit you are on your own🙂 Regards, Daan Hello again, Daan That makes sense. I might consider the Pro, but I am still baffled by one thing. Why does the Airtalk have 2 ADB ports? Is it a pass through? And also, can the original Airtalk be powered with ADB and if it cannot, why are there 2 ADB ports on it? I'm not trying to bother you or ask any stupid questions, I am just a little bit confused is all.
Posted by: daanvdl on 2023-06-03 12:20:23 Hello again, Daan That makes sense. I might consider the Pro, but I am still baffled by one thing. Why does the Airtalk have 2 ADB ports? Is it a pass through? And also, can the original Airtalk be powered with ADB and if it cannot, why are there 2 ADB ports on it? I'm not trying to bother you or ask any stupid questions, I am just a little bit confused is all. No problem! Yes, some Macs do have 1 ADB port, so you can use it as pass through for other ADB devices, or just leave one port open if you enough ADB ports on your Mac.
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