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Posted by: Tempest on 2016-06-12 15:28:13
I have an opportunity to get my hands on a Color Classic, but I have a few questions first:
1. The CC I'm being offered also comes with a LC575 board (Mystic Mod). He claims he's used the CC with the 575 board (says you need to do a few tweaks to System 7.1), but never did the screen resolution mod. How useful is a Mystic modded CC without the screen resolution mod? I'm mostly a gamer, and I've heard that most games that need the extra power of the 575 also need 640x480 resolution to run.
2. Assuming I don't use the 575 board, will I run into too many problems with games using the regular 512x384 resolution?
3. I assume the CC can do monochrome for games that don't support color. Does this mean that I can use it basically as a SE/30 that can support color?
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Posted by: 360alaska on 2016-06-12 16:21:29
This should answer your questions: http://colourclassicfaq.com/mobo/mystic.shtmland yes, it can do monochrome :0
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Posted by: omidimo on 2016-06-12 16:24:27
The 575 board is a nice speed bump (w/ LC040 or full 040) with the potential for 128MB ram. You can go all the way to Mac OS 8.1 with it.
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Posted by: Tempest on 2016-06-12 17:25:03
Well I'm mostly a game player so I'd be using this system for System 7-8 games (I have a Classic for System 6 and lower and a G3 for 9 and up). I was just curious as to whether or not I need to do the screen mod because I'd have to send it out to someone for that (no way in hell I'm touching that monitor cap).
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Posted by: omidimo on 2016-06-12 17:35:28
I had the same quandary. I ended up leaving the CC un-modified and I got a 575, Mostly because built-in cd-rom is nice, and the stereo sound. It took me a long time to finally get a full 575 (just this past weekend!) Plus, if you re-cap the analog board in the 575, that display is supposed to be awesome. I plan to do that after I get my CC's analog board done.
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Posted by: Tempest on 2016-06-13 09:06:07
So when did games start requiring 640x480?
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Posted by: omidimo on 2016-06-13 20:53:37
IIRC it was around 1993 or 94 that games became 640x480 minimum.
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Posted by: Tempest on 2016-06-14 06:27:35
Ah, that's getting later than I generally care about anyway. That was a dark time for Mac gaming when most things were just PC ports. I like to play Mac specific games (otherwise I just use my DOS system).
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Posted by: omidimo on 2016-06-14 19:03:04
I love Boxer, I use it to resurrect old DOS games that are not on GOG. In fact the guy behind boxer did the wrapper for GOG.
If you can get a good deal on the Mystic CC, then you should grab it.
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Posted by: Jaek_3 on 2016-06-15 20:58:46
Out of curiosity, could you put a color monitor into a Mac Classic?
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Posted by: Tempest on 2016-06-16 09:00:40
Has anyone tried to get their CC online with one of these? http://www.ebay.com/itm/231332620598
What are the limitations (what System does it need?)? I'd mostly use this for transferring files from my new Mac to the CC.
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Posted by: Tempest on 2016-06-16 12:57:13
Apparently they have: http://appletothecore.me/files/color_classc_network_card_install.php
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Posted by: omidimo on 2016-06-16 19:28:44
The cards all work well, I use the Apple Twisted Pair model.
You might need a 10baseT hub as modern switches are problematic with old hardware.
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Posted by: Tempest on 2016-06-17 06:27:39
I have an old Linksys WRT54G with DD-WRT installed that I use as a switch. I wonder if that will work or if I can configure it to work?
Could I hook the CC directly into my G4 Laptop somehow then?
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Posted by: Reasons. on 2016-06-17 07:27:53
You might be able to use OS X's internet sharing (found in the sharing preference pane in settings). It lets you bridge your computer's internet connection to another connection type (for example, from WiFi to ethernet). I used it to connect my clamshell iBook to the internet before I got the internal WiFi card.
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Posted by: Tempest on 2016-06-17 10:19:59
Would I hook the CC directly to the laptop then? Would that require a regular cable or a crossover cable?
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Posted by: Reasons. on 2016-06-17 10:39:06
Yep. Connect the Ethernet port on the PowerBook to the Ethernet port on the color classic. I've done it with a regular cable (like the kind that came with my router), though I'm hardly an expert in network hardware.
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Posted by: rsolberg on 2016-06-17 15:45:35
Reasons. has a good tip here. A crossover cable is not required, but can be used- as the PowerBook's Ethernet port has auto MDIX- it will switch over to a crossover connection automatically with a straight through cable. In addition to setting up Internet connection sharing from AirPort to Ethernet, you'll probably need to manually configure the Ethernet port to 10Mbps and half duplex. You can find this in the Network system preference panel, by selecting the connection and clicking Advanced, then going to the Ethernet tab/pane.
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Posted by: LazarusNine on 2016-06-17 22:41:05
I've had a lot of luck with one of these (see link). In 'client' mode, it acts as a WiFi card, essentially. After setting it up on a modern computer, plug the Ethernet cable into the CC. Plug the USB cable into the wall (with adapter bought separately or from phone, etc). Done. You've got WiFi on the Colour Classic and can connect to an AppleShare connection from, say, the PowerBook. You need to set TCP/IP settings to Ethernet.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00TQEX8BO/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?qid=1465403375&sr=8-15&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=TP-LINK
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