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Help with MacSE booting & archiving App from it

Posted by: cacopunky on 2022-10-26 12:44:51

Hi, I have been restoring a Macintosh SE running System 7.0.1 that I found with a Mobius 030 Accelerator. One ram module was bad on the MacSE motherboard when I got it and thus did not boot, but I replaced it and it's running and detecting the accelerator card but it does have a one issue.

Question No.1 - Booting Issue - Is there a way to change Startup Device order?
When I turn on the SE, it gives me a Question Mark Disc image but if I push the Reset/Interrupt Switch it boots fine into the Hard Drive and the computer runs without issues. The drive is 20MB and has 3 partitions. From what I can tell, First partition is the startup disk but there's also a system folder on the second partition. I tried moving the system folder from the 2nd partition to another folder to see if that was confusing the SE but that made no difference. I am not sure if it's trying to boot from a different source (Floppy Drive), I don't know where to access the order of booting devices if that's the case (I'm still new to anything bellow OS9). I did select partition One from Control Panels/Startup Disk a bunch of times but that made no difference. Did I miss something?

Question No. 2 - Archiving an App - Is there a way to view hidden files on System 7?
There is a software/App called Performer (version 3.61) by Mark of the Unicorn (MOTU) dated 1990 that I would love to archive as I don't see this version archived anywhere. There are versions of "Digital Performer" on Macintosh Garden but the earliest there date to 1996 and one version of "Performer" from 1986. The question is (and it's a total noob one), is there a way to view hidden files on System 7 like there is on newer OS? I ask because if I use an app called FastFind to search Performer on the SE, I do see a file called "Performer 3.61Key-1" (see screenshot) that is not viewable if I go to the folder location. If I try to open it from FastFind it opens as text and it's just computer jargon. I wonder if this is some kind of serial number. I did read this app required a diskette to authorize the had drive so not sure if accessing this file would give someone a way to crack it.

I have made a copy of the entire contents of the SE by just dragging it to a Zip Disc.

Thanks!

Posted by: Phipli on 2022-10-26 13:19:32

Question No.1 - Booting Issue - Is there a way to change Startup Device order?

Put both systems on the same partition and use System Picker to pick the one you want to start from. Make sure you have another way of booting the machine first (tested floppy or external hard disk) just in case the other system doesn't work.

System Picker - Macintosh Garden

System Picker allows you to choose which System Folder to boot from, if you have 2 or more System Folders on the Macintosh startup disk. Top DL: System Picker version 1.1a3 from 1997 (from Apple Dev CD, Oct 1998). 2nd DL: System Picker version 1.0b11 from 1991. 3rd DL: System Picker version...

macintoshgarden.org

Question No. 2 - Archiving an App - Is there a way to view hidden files on System 7?

If you get ResEdit onto the machine, you can use it to edit the invisible flag for the file.

ResEdit 2.1.3 - Macintosh Garden

Apple's resource editor. Comes in handy for a lot of things, like changing file types or seeing invisible files.

macintoshgarden.org

Its the the file menus in resedit.

I have made a copy of the entire contents of the SE by just dragging it to a Zip Disc.

Its better to boot from a floppy or external disk and then create a disk image using Disk Copy or Shrink Wrap or something. It captures more about the disk (be warned, including some recently, unoverwritten, deleted files).

Posted by: Phipli on 2022-10-26 13:25:28

Which version of Performer is it?

Posted by: cacopunky on 2022-10-26 15:48:28

Which version of Performer is it?

It's Performer (version 3.61), but note, there's a version called "Digital Performer" and the earlier one is just "Performer" so the version numbers overlap between the two.

Put both systems on the same partition and use System Picker to pick the one you want to start from. Make sure you have another way of booting the machine first (tested floppy or external hard disk) just in case the other system doesn't work.

System Picker - Macintosh Garden

System Picker allows you to choose which System Folder to boot from, if you have 2 or more System Folders on the Macintosh startup disk. Top DL: System Picker version 1.1a3 from 1997 (from Apple Dev CD, Oct 1998). 2nd DL: System Picker version 1.0b11 from 1991. 3rd DL: System Picker version...

macintoshgarden.org

If you get ResEdit onto the machine, you can use it to edit the invisible flag for the file.

ResEdit 2.1.3 - Macintosh Garden

Apple's resource editor. Comes in handy for a lot of things, like changing file types or seeing invisible files.

macintoshgarden.org

View attachment 47956

Its the the file menus in resedit.

Its better to boot from a floppy or external disk and then create a disk image using Disk Copy or Shrink Wrap or something. It captures more about the disk (be warned, including some recently, unoverwritten, deleted files).

Thanks for the quick reply. I will try your suggestions in a bit. As for the system in two different folders, they are the same system 7.0.1 in both.