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Posted by: TPope on 2016-04-26 14:17:45
Does anyone know how Jag put OS X on a SE/30? I remember years ago that he did and there was not much ram left for anything else. I'd like to try. Peace.
Tpope
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Posted by: beachycove on 2016-04-26 14:24:31
Photoshop?
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Posted by: Elfen on 2016-04-26 16:05:01
That was not a SE\30. It was a G4/Intel Mac Mini with a small LCD Screen cut into and fitted into a Mac SE\30 case.
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Posted by: Juror22 on 2016-04-26 18:45:23
Of the two methods, Photoshop sounds easier 😉
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Posted by: uniserver on 2016-04-26 20:16:55
10"LCD in place of the tube, and Mac mini inside. ? Â lol
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Posted by: Gorgonops on 2016-04-26 22:10:36
I remember a while back on one of these forums someone claimed they'd gotten PearPC compiled on a, what was it, Centris? Quadra? 68040 running Linux and had set it to work booting some version of OS X. I vaguely recall that the attempts repeatedly ended in failure... Aha, here's the thread, don't know if they ever revisited it after killing a hard drive trying. But, sure, in theory you could "run" OS X on an unmodified SE/30 using this technique, given a large enough hard drive and enough RAM to keep the virtual memory subsystem from thrashing completely into oblivion. But it might literally take years to get to the desktop. No kidding there, *years*.
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Posted by: beachycove on 2016-04-27 18:43:26
That was Dana, as I recall.
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Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2016-05-14 23:31:14
I've put Mac OS 8.1 onto my IIfx and it runs quite well with 32MB RAM.
The SE/30 is 2.5 times slower and a much slower busspeed than the IIfx and I imagine that it would work but that it would crawl.
Getting back on topic, how about experimenting with NextStep on the SE/30?
I know little about NextStep, but it did run originally on 68K processors, so it seems a lot realistic than OS X.
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Posted by: Gorgonops on 2016-05-15 08:38:24
Getting back on topic, how about experimenting with NextStep on the SE/30?
I know little about NextStep, but it did run originally on 68K processors, so it seems a lot realistic than OS X. It may have run on the same CPU but NeXT hardware other than that isn't particularly Mac-like so there's no way on earth you're installing an old version of NextStep on an SE/30. At the very least you'd need the full source code, which nobody has, and spend a few months writing kernel drivers for the totally different hardware.
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Posted by: IPalindromeI on 2016-05-15 11:04:12
That and the facts Macs are miserably slow compared to even a low end Cube. Support HW and DMA matters a LOT.
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Posted by: Gorgonops on 2016-05-15 12:40:22
The one remote possibility I could see for getting a NeXT/OS X-esque environment on an SE/30 would be to install Linux or NetBSD and run GNUstep on top of it. (GNUstep is source code compatible with OpenStep/Cocoa and allows cross-compiling software that doesn't require other OS X specific APIs.) The performance would be hilariously bad but still faster than emulation. 😉
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Posted by: CollX on 2016-06-24 11:39:59
Ever been had ,oops,jags too Cifs? Jag,cybernetics courtesy is quip about netBSD,from the SE that built the new Windows under many other Linux distros practices,mint et al?
Go on tell me there's lies...
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Posted by: CelGen on 2016-06-24 16:45:30
Uhhh....
Are you feeling okay bro?
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Posted by: Paralel on 2016-06-25 14:12:41
If you could use a RAM array interfaced to the SCSI bus instead of a real HD, that PearPC trick might work, but then you're talking about custom hardware.
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