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| MacEffects Clear Case REVIEW, for SE & SE/30 |
Posted by: JDW on 2020-07-10 14:05:12
Folks, let me be clear. MacEffects is worthy of your consideration.
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Posted by: aeberbach on 2020-07-10 19:03:48
It’s a stunning case. The only thing that worries me is that with everything on display I would be looking for a CRT with a perfect silvered back. Maybe powder coat all of the metal frame pieces too. Clean up all the blobby hot glue on the analog board. Make all my SIMMs match. And of course a neat rainbow ribbon cable like that one...
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Posted by: maceffects on 2020-07-11 04:27:24
Another member removed the exterior Aquadag on the CRT leaving it very shiny and silver. Apparently there were no ill effects. I think he used Isopropyl alcohol with rag to remove. I’ve not tried that but the result did look stunning.
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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2020-07-11 06:59:55
Make all my SIMMs match. Don't bother, just put the prettiest one in the front. [🙂] @maceffects, now we need a batch of 16MB SIMMs that look really nice from the front. Red PCBs would definitely make them faster. [😀]
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Posted by: LaPorta on 2020-07-11 08:36:17
Analog glue blobs are just the nature of the beast. If you really were picky, just use clear glue.
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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2020-07-11 08:50:05
It's not mere glue, it's a specific compound used in power supplies, but the name escapes me. Electrical and high temperature characteristic of said gunk were carefully formulated. Since you're modding a display piece, removal without replacement might be a better option?
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Posted by: LaPorta on 2020-07-11 08:56:13
Really? I figured it was simply a way to stop top-heavy capacitors from pulling on their joints too much. Maybe my hot glue gun doesn't cut it...
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Posted by: PB145B on 2020-07-11 09:39:44
Great video! About the glue, pretty sure it’s regular old hot glue. Nothing special.
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Posted by: Byrd on 2020-07-11 09:47:39
Nice video, thanks for putting it up @JDW! I like the rainbow ribbon cable; I just found the same in an SE FDHD shipped to me (with a third party tray installed for a HD).
It really is a beautiful case to work on; props to @maceffects for getting this over the line after so much work.
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Posted by: maceffects on 2020-07-11 10:04:53
Great video! About the glue, pretty sure it’s regular old hot glue. Nothing special. I use TECBOND 248 for both capacitor glue and and for bonding the speaker to the front panel of the Mac SE series. I probably wouldn't use the cheap stuff that comes with a gun or from Walmart. That said it would probably still work.
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Posted by: JDW on 2020-07-11 10:05:21
Thank you, @Byrd. Mark J. of MacEffects really put a lot of love into his masterpieces. As mentioned in my video, even Apple recognizes that effort, showing the case, albeit indirectly, in their secretive lab at WWDC 2020.
The hot glue you see me use on the clear speaker in my video is the same stuff you see me use in my analog board recap videos. I bought it in Japan. There’s nothing special or expensive about it. It looks fine to me.
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Posted by: LaPorta on 2020-07-11 10:09:42
Not to totally derail this, but MacEffects, why would you recommend against it?
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Posted by: maceffects on 2020-07-11 10:15:31
Not to totally derail this, but MacEffects, why would you recommend against it? In most cases the stuff that comes with a glue gun is a sort of generic all purpose glue. It will bond everything but isn't as good as an application specific glue. TECBOND 248 is acrylic based and designed for various applications as well but it does very good at bonding smooth surfaces. I did probably mischaracterize Walmart, they may sell comparable glue.
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Posted by: LaPorta on 2020-07-11 10:16:39
Got it. So, not that it would have a deleterious effect, but that it might not work as well.
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Posted by: maceffects on 2020-07-11 10:18:08
Exactly, I can't see any harm in coming from it.
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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2020-07-11 10:30:14
Great video! About the glue, pretty sure it’s regular old hot glue. Nothing special. If it's white, try melting it with the tip of a hot glue gun. If it doesn't budge, it's silastic silicone and moisture cures at room temperature, it's not applied like hot glue.
https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1724100.pdf
That said, I've seen a lot of clear hot melt glue on Compact Mac Analog Boards. They're not subjected to the high temps found inside power supply cans, so it should probably be fine if it's really needed at all for a display machine?
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Posted by: maceffects on 2020-07-11 10:31:43
If it's white, try melting the white stuff with the tip of a hot glue gun. If it doesn't budge, it's silastic silicone and moisture cures at room temperature, it's not applied like hot glue.
https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1724100.pdf
That said, I've seen a lot of clear hot melt glue on Compact Mac Analog Boards. They're not subjected to the high temps found inside power supply cans, so it should probably be fine if it's really needed at all for a display machine. You may be right, and I've not yet recapped my power supply. I suppose I'll need to re-watch @JDW comprehensive video and make it happen.
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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2020-07-11 10:37:11
Inside a PSU can, you can bet on it. It's @JDW's thread, so I'm sure he'll chime in soon without you needing to wade through the video just for that answer. [😉]
I need to do the same to my SE/30 and SE, has he or anyone else got a list of part numbers from Mouser or Digi-Key for the task?
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Posted by: maceffects on 2020-07-11 11:16:55
Inside a PSU can, you can bet on it. It's @JDW's thread, so I'm sure he'll chime in soon without you needing to wade through the video just for that answer. [😉]
I need to do the same to my SE/30 and SE, has he or anyone else got a list of part numbers from Mouser or Digi-Key for the task? Here is the link he posted for capacitor list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18X-EN67lQdZ2crCBAlkHrtqCCoJK6cLw_BkIYdlJvgs/edit#gid=0
Here is the link to his video (highly recommended):
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