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Posted by: Quadra on 2018-05-31 15:45:58
I have a USB drive that works on a Win 10 PC and a SCSI drive that works on a Q700 with system 7.1.
They can`t read the other ones formatted disks though. (they can with a 1.44mb floppy)
Is it possible to transfer files via Zip 100 from a modern PC (or Mac) to an old Mac?
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Posted by: tanaquil on 2018-05-31 17:05:20
I can't answer the PC question, but I can help a bit with the modern Mac question. I use zip disks a lot, but mainly for transport to the modern Mac, not from it. A Sierra Mac can read HFS zip disks (which is the only thing System 7 understands), but cannot write to them. If you have an OS 9 bridge machine, that is more useful since it can both read and write HFS+ (as can the OS X machine). Also, an OS 9 machine with USB ports can handle HFS+ USB flash drives. So handy!
Have you tried installing System 7.5 on the Q700? I don't know if it would help, but I know there was a point at which the Mac became capable of reading PC-formatted zip disks. I used to rely very heavily on zip disks in the mid 90s and it amuses me to no end that I can now use them to move files between different vintage macs.
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Posted by: Quadra on 2018-06-01 01:05:52
If there is a point where Mac could read PC formatted zips, OS9 can read them?
With a bridge machine it will be solved. That QS DP I have is an OSX system.
I am picking op another QS (733) next week that I want to turn into an OS9 machine and I`m going to install a IDE zip into it.
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Posted by: yuhong on 2018-06-25 18:13:16
Yes, System 7.5 is what introduced PC Exchange.
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Posted by: Quadra on 2018-06-26 14:10:43
That's what I did then, installing 7.5 on the Q700. Works fine. Reads PC zips now.
On the downside, its the English version, I haven't found the Dutch 7.5 yet.
7.1 was a Dutch version I had for more than 20 years.
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Posted by: Cory5412 on 2018-06-26 15:55:20
Is it possible to run the PC Exchange extensions either from 7.6 on 7.1? Often, newer versions of tools wil run on older OSes like that, especially almost anything form 7.5 running on 7.1.
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Posted by: Quadra on 2018-06-27 04:05:33
With 7.1, I always used a control panel "DOS Bestandsuitwisseling" ("DOS file exchange") system prog FN7.1P5, that I saparatelly installed. Made June-10-1993. That works with PC 1.44MB, but not ZIP.
But I like 7.5 with its nicer backgrounds and Apple Menu, I`ll keep it. I will find the Dutch version one day 🙂
Back in the day, our Performa 475 had System 7.1, but also a control panel called "Performa" that added some 7.5 features to 7.1 like the backgrounds and the help menu. It doesn`t work on something else than a Performa though.
Btw, that QS 733 that I was going to buy, turned out to be dead, so I got it for free. Luckily it wasn`t a far drive and its case is still perfect.
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Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2018-06-27 04:44:33
Suggestion: I have never used it, so I can't confirm or deny if it works. But it might.
Install Mac OS 8.1 onto your Quadra 700. This will give you access to HFS+. Format the zip-disk as HFS+.
Purchase from the company Paragon Software a product by the name of HFS+ for Windows
https://www.paragon-software.com/home/hfs-windows/#
Maybe someone on these fora has experience with it. There is a time-limited demo. that can be downloaded to see if it works.
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Posted by: Dog Cow on 2018-06-27 09:29:43
Suggestion: I have never used it, so I can't confirm or deny if it works. But it might.
Install Mac OS 8.1 onto your Quadra 700. This will give you access to HFS+. Format the zip-disk as HFS+.
Purchase from the company Paragon Software a product by the name of HFS+ for Windows What? If you're installing 8.1, then you have PC Exchange too. Just format the Zip disk as PC DOS format and use that with the Windows computer.
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Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2018-06-27 22:09:00
What? If you're installing 8.1, then you have PC Exchange too. Just format the Zip disk as PC DOS format and use that with the Windows computer. Agreed. I'm just providing another possibility in case the OP isn't happy with using DOS. I have found that I can't always reformat Zip disks from mac to DOS and vice versa.
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Posted by: Cory5412 on 2018-06-27 23:02:24
The Iomega Tools, which should be available on the various old mac software web sites, can format Zip and Jaz disks into your selected format. I don't know why OS 9 won't do this on its own, but it's not a bad idea to get the proper Iomega drivers and tools anyway, they allege to be able to do detailed surface scans of media and diagnose potential issue with drives, important functionality to have, considering.
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Posted by: Quadra on 2018-06-28 00:48:05
What I do:
Win 10 PC + USB zip drive 100 => PC format Zip disk
Q700 Sys 7.5 with the iomega extension + SCSI zip drive 100 => read/write PC formatted Zip disks
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