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Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-29 12:44:01 Hi Guys, I’m just about to get my 2nd vintage mac up and running, a performa 6200 (i know not the best of macs) but i wanted something newer and cheaper than my SE/30 as a partner machine to get online and share/transfer programs between the machines. Now my thinking was to use AppleTalk/LocalTalk networking in 7.5.5 as it is inbuilt I believe, 1.) is this straight forward to do, do i just plug a LocalTalk cable from one machine to another or do i need some node or switch or something? 2.) i have a v32 14.4k dial up modem i can use on either SE/30 or Performa but thought it would be best to use it on the Performa as an internet gateway for the 2 machines, is this possible? I know it would be slow but ultimately my goal is only to use dial up to be able to get the drivers i need for my 2 NETWORK cards (in both SE/30 & Performa) plus drivers for my external scsi CD-ROM and ZIP drives. If i can do all the above i will then network them all together using TCP/IP to a 2007 Mac mini so i can at least use that as the gateway to my home broadband connection to my vintage mac network. any help i’d be so grateful as i cant get any software on to my vintage machines otherwise
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-29 15:42:36 I said LocalTalk in my post i meant AppleTalk
Posted by: MikeatOSX on 2018-03-31 11:02:05 Here is a good overview: http://www.applefool.com/se30/
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-31 12:13:27 Thanks Mike, i have read that already and I’m not quite at the point of TCP/IP networking hence looking at the AppleTalk setup but I don’t even know what i need to plug where 🙁
Posted by: MrGasS27 on 2018-03-31 12:53:51 If you have a serial/printer cable (mini male 8-din in both ends) you can share an HDD between your two Macs, it's a simple thing, but first provide for the cable I mentioned
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-31 12:56:41 If you have a serial/printer cable (mini male 8-din in both ends) you can share an HDD between your two Macs, it's a simple thing, but first provide for the cable I mentioned Hi MrGas, is that the same as the ADB keyboard cable as i have one of those? Neal 🙂
Posted by: MrGasS27 on 2018-03-31 13:15:34 Hi MrGas, is that the same as the ADB keyboard cable as i have one of those? Neal 🙂 Nope, the ADB cable is a 4 mini din, you have to search the cable I mentioned that was used also between Apple printers and Macs
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-31 13:18:12 Ah great ok i’ll look on eBay, then do you plug it printer to printer from machine to machine? thanks again neal
Posted by: mactjaap on 2018-03-31 13:22:20 Maybe this helps: http://www.mac512.com/macwebpages/Macnet1.htm
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-31 13:22:43 Like this one
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-31 13:26:18 Maybe this helps: http://www.mac512.com/macwebpages/Macnet1.htm Awesome thank you Mactjaap thats exactly what I’ve been looking for, i know tcp/ip pc networking but never done these old macs before. 🙂
Posted by: MrGasS27 on 2018-03-31 13:28:50 Like this one Yep, like that. However, you need this cable to attach the Macs through Printer port, then you start Sharing from a Mac and you connect with the Chooser to the Mac with file sharing enabled
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-31 13:31:28 Thanks MrGas, i have just ordered it from eBay as it turns out the seller is only 7 miles away. 🙂
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-31 14:17:33 Ok once i’ve get my cable and new os (also ordered for the performa) from eBay could i use my performa with TCP/IP as it has a network card in it, then AppleTalk from it to my SE/30? At least then i could get on to the internet with the performa and download software and drivers to transfer to my SE/30. Thats been my biggest problem not being able to get any drivers or software onto my little SE/30, i even have a network card in the SE/30 but no driver so never been able to get to work. Worst case scenario i have a 14.4k dial up modem now so could use that just to get the drivers i need but know it would be very slow. Neal
Posted by: MrGasS27 on 2018-03-31 14:20:14 Ok once i’ve get my cable and new os (also ordered for the performa) from eBay could i use my performa with TCP/IP as it has a network card in it, then AppleTalk from it to my SE/30? At least then i could get on to the internet with the performa and download software and drivers to transfer to my SE/30. Thats been my biggest problem not being able to get any drivers or software onto my little SE/30, i even have a network card in the SE/30 but no driver so never been able to get to work. Worst case scenario i have a 14.4k dial up modem now so could use that just to get the drivers i need but know it would be very slow. Neal Yes, I think you can do this, I put my 6200 on ethernet on 2008 and I downloaded some software with Netscape
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-31 14:26:46 Fantastic news!!! yes mine is a 6200 just retro brighted it today, just waiting for os, screen and now cable and hopefully with some head scratching i can get the performa online and from there i can finally get my setup working
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2018-03-31 14:27:41 Can you use a USB FDD on the Mini? If not, use a PC to download your drivers and write them to floppy?
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2018-03-31 14:32:51 LOL! You just posted that pic and there's a lovely 1400 sitting on the 6200. Snag a Mac compatible PCMCIA WiFi NIC and you've got yourself a wireless bridge machine setup using three PhoneNet connectors. [😉]
Posted by: SE30_Neal on 2018-03-31 14:45:26 Can you use a USB FDD on the Mini? If not, use a PC to download your drivers and write them to floppy? Hi Trash, I don’t have a pc. I tried doing that with my MacMini (MM) before without success as it didn’t like the hfs file formats as it has 10.6 on it, that said I’ve just brought tiger 10.4 to wipe it and do a fresh OS install on the MM as i know 10.4 is backward compatible and can read the older formats. Yes i have a usb FDD and Dvd writer in the pic on top of the MM, in fact that CD-ROM you can see is tiger 10.4 so will have a go on Monday to see if that will work. Ultimately the MM I want to use as an email server to deal with SSL that the SE/30 & Performa can’t do due to thr old email client software.
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