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Posted by: beachycove on 2013-10-05 13:16:18
I just booted up one of the two 33mhz LCIIIs I have lying around here, as I am thinking of trying to sell it on. The hard drive would not cooperate at first, but it booted after a couple of tries with a welcome screen stating, "Welcome to Macintosh" and a second, unfamiliar line in the box, "Debugger Installed," and to a machine that reports itself as running System 7.3d0 in "About this Macintosh."
Never heard of such a System. What do I have? The machine seems otherwise just to have a 7.1 install, so how does it come to be ever-so-slightly more exotic?
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Posted by: max1zzz on 2013-10-05 13:21:53
7.3d0 would seem to be some sort of mac os beta if i'm not mistaken
However i have never seen one labeled 7.3....
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Posted by: Paralel on 2013-10-05 14:02:46
What do the System and Finder files have to say'?
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Posted by: beachycove on 2013-10-05 14:46:10
Both report System software 7.1 .
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Posted by: LCGuy on 2013-10-05 16:12:51
Does your Special menu have a funny name? Thats one way to identify a beta.
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Posted by: volvo242gt on 2013-10-05 18:07:31
The second line is probably referencing Macsbug... Sounds like it's a developer version of System 7...
-J
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Posted by: beachycove on 2013-10-05 18:18:56
Yes, Macsbug is installed.
Nothing special about the Special menu.
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Posted by: volvo242gt on 2013-10-05 21:34:01
Did a little googling, and it does come up in some threads about some applications being run on a Centris 610 and a Quadra 800, so it's not something that someone hacked with ResEdit...
-J
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Posted by: defor on 2013-10-25 09:30:35
IIRC, some of the Performa OS builds of 7.1.X had WIEEEEERD version numbers littered throughout- my guess is that it's this. If you're still curious, grab some screenshots of the in question version number as well as some of the get info panels on System, Finder, and all the System Enablers.
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Posted by: volvo242gt on 2013-10-25 11:55:59
IIRC, some of the Performa OS builds of 7.1.X had WIEEEEERD version numbers littered throughout- my guess is that it's this. If you're still curious, grab some screenshots of the in question version number as well as some of the get info panels on System, Finder, and all the System Enablers. Ah, the 7.1Px stuff. Different... Suspect 7.3d0 was a prototype OS version of 7.5...
-J
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Posted by: onlyonemac on 2013-10-25 12:29:18
In any case, you should somehow archive a copy of it (if you haven't done so already, which I'm sure you have 🙂 ).
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Posted by: Scott Baret on 2013-10-30 13:41:29
Definitely sounds like a development release to me. I'm curious as to what happened to 7.2 if this is the case!
The only other thing I could think of was System 7 Pro, which has the version number 7.1.1. It's actually sort of rare; I've only seen it out there a few times and it wasn't too popular in its day. 7.1.2 is the only other non-Performa release prior to 7.5, and this was the one to add Power Mac support--sort of like that version of Tiger to add Intel support (I don't recall which version it was offhand).
I'm curious as to whether or not there's a System 6.0.9 prototype out there--maybe one they were making when they developed the Quadras. Imagine System 6 on a first-generation Quadra...probably would equate to running Windows 3.1 on a Pentium II...
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Posted by: Paralel on 2013-10-30 14:16:30
7.1.2p will work to update any existing 68k 7.1.x install, and shows as System 7.1.2 w/ Finder 7.1.4. Works well on my Powerbook 540c.
I find it interesting that 7.1.2p has the same finder version that was used in 7.5.0
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Posted by: CC_333 on 2013-10-30 15:03:56
sort of like that version of Tiger to add Intel support (I don't recall which version it was offhand) It was 10.4.4, I believe.
This is all pretty interesting stuff. Thinking about what might have been...
Somebody should make an archive of that install, if only for posterity, before it gets lost.
c
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Posted by: Paralel on 2013-10-30 15:23:04
I find it strange that there is no indication in the file versions that it's different than a standard installation of 7.1
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Posted by: beachycove on 2013-10-30 15:56:48
Does anyone know what happens when Macsbug is installed? Does it mess with the numbering scheme in some way?
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Posted by: volvo242gt on 2013-10-30 20:55:46
Shouldn't. Had Macsbug 6.2.1 on my original IIsi. Software version still reported 7.1. Just like how the boot disks for my Plus reported 6.0.7... On my IIfx, which has 7.5.5 and Macsbug 6.5.3 installed, the OS version number remains the same if I start up with extensions off.
I guess you could try. Boot the computer up and hold down the shift key. See what happens.
-J
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Posted by: beachycove on 2013-10-31 06:29:52
I will tinker with it some more once once I have read up a bit on Macsbug, once I find the time. Have to go away this weekend, work is busy, etc. etc.
On the archiving question, however, the slight problem there is that there are multiple personal files left from the previous owner, all the way from the 90s. I haven't touched them, as I don't poke around in other peoples' business when I get an old machine (first thing I do is simply look for interesting Extensions, etc., see if it is working, and then I zero out/ wipe the system), but if I were to archive, I am uncertain how to proceed. If I were simply to trash the personal files, empty the trash, and then archive to an .img, could the personal files in theory be recovered from the .img archive by a disk utility?
It is a bit supercillious, I suppose, but I personally take the files of a private user to be entirely off limits.
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Posted by: Paralel on 2013-10-31 10:27:34
I'd say just grab the system folder, delete the preferences folder, make sure nothing personal is sitting around in there, and stuffit. Without the preferences folder I can't imagine there is anything else in that system folder that is identifiable. Since the system is the interesting part I can't imagine anything else on that HD is needed
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