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| Click here to select a new forum. | | Mac IIsi dead? | Posted by: Sewa on 2015-09-08 05:38:53 Hi everyone. I'm new to this forum.
I have a collection of about 35 machines and with my brother we're planning an exibition in my kid's school for the sience week. I've been away from my loved machines for a while, since life with small kids demands a lot of my free time....
Ok. So I went back to the shelves I've started turning on some machines among then my "pet" a IIsi. Din't power on. So. Open the lid and found the battery leaked. I cleaned the acid with alcohol, but don't know what else can be wrong. The oscilator's metal cover have rusted since the last time I recall. Perhaps I can post a picture of the mainboard, so someone can tell me what you think?
Excusme for my wrong english.
Thanks in advance
Seba
| Posted by: TheWhiteFalcon on 2015-09-08 06:03:49 Es posible que la pila es la culpa, pero a lo mejor la problema es en la fuente de alimentacion. Es commun para los condensadores a secar y fallar; tengo un IIsi que tiene la misma problema. Para arreglarla tendras que cambiar los condensadores; casi todos los fuentes originales en los IIsi tiene este problema ya. Y aun asi, los condensadores en la computadora misma puede fallar tambien.
Un foto nos ayudara a juzgar.
De todos modos debe sacar las pilas de todos sus computadoras si puede. Hay muy pocos que tendran problemas iniciandose sin ellas. En la mayoria de los casos, solo tendras problemas con los relojes. 😉
| Posted by: bibilit on 2015-09-08 06:51:57 Hola,
Si, la fuente de alimentacion es la primera causa del problema, tengo dos (bueno uno y medio, ya que la fuente es comun para los dos) y tuve que cambiar condensatores de la fuente.
La pila nos sirve para nada (solo para mantener datos) y no empide arrancar.
Los condensatores de la placa se deben de cambiar tambien, pero asi de repente, sigo pensando que la fuente tiene que ser revisada.
In other words, the PSU is probably the main culprit, but anyway checking capacitors on the Logic Board and PSU is a good starting point.
| Posted by: pixelwrangler.design on 2015-09-08 08:16:16 I have a couple of the IIsi's and very similar issues.
I'm pretty sure that the power supply is bad on one or both, not sure if thy can be repaired or if i simply need a working one.
I'm also seeing burst capacitors, so i fear i will have to learn how to re-cap them.
| Posted by: CC_333 on 2015-09-08 11:57:42 TWF, Bibilit: ¡Traductor Google es excelente!
pixelwrangler.design: Agreed. A bad power supply will cause the symptoms you describe. If they're not blown (ie, there are no obviously burnt components), then a simple recap (replacing all the old capacitors with new ones) will most likely get them working again.
That being said, you should recap your logic boards as well. The IIsi doesn't seem too suseptible to cap rot (where the fluids inside the capacitor leak onto the surounding circuitry), but others, most notably the SE/30 and Q840av (among others), are quite susceptible, and if they work, you should recap those ASAP.
c
| Posted by: uniserver on 2015-09-08 12:03:12

| Posted by: TheWhiteFalcon on 2015-09-08 12:40:56
TWF, Bibilit: ¡Traductor Google es excelente!
pixelwrangler.design: Agreed. A bad power supply will cause the symptoms you describe. If they're not blown (ie, there are no obviously burnt components), then a simple recap (replacing all the old capacitors with new ones) will most likely get them working again.
That being said, you should recap your logic boards as well. The IIsi doesn't seem too suseptible to cap rot (where the fluids inside the capacitor leak onto the surounding circuitry), but others, most notably the SE/30 and Q840av (among others), are quite susceptible, and if they work, you should recap those ASAP.
c Heh, I only used translate for capacitor and power supply.
| Posted by: CC_333 on 2015-09-08 13:12:04 What I meant was, Google Translate is excellent for allowing me to read everything else you wrote!
How good are your foreign language skills, anyway? Was your first language english?
c
| Posted by: uniserver on 2015-09-08 14:35:11 yeah cap's cap's cap's  😀  Â
| Posted by: bibilit on 2015-09-10 02:09:28
How good are your foreign language skills, anyway? Was your first language english? Not bad i will say, speaking fluently French, Spanich and English (the last not being my first language) and learning some Italian too.
Useful on holiday trips. 🙂
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