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Plus and SE/30 ...and then some!
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-28 20:14:52
I responded to a listing on LEM swap for checkerboard SE/30 for 25.00 and a floppy-locked Plus for 25.00

The Mainstay:

An SE/30 that boots to this:



Two Mac Pluses, a 1mb and a said-to-be 4mb, both boot to flashing floppy:







The surprise:

He is moving and trying to slim down his collection, so I got 2 Powerbook 540c, each with a battery and charger.

One boots fine to 7.6.1, the other most likely needs a new LCD inverter board:







The oddball:

Lastly is an Apple IIe, with an apple monochrome monitor dated 1988 said-to-be from a IIc, no disk drives, but plenty of expansion cards:



/with the plus's keyboard & mouse on its head



One of the plus's is a tinge odd. It isn't front-badged. It has nothing, as shown in the picture. Thoughts on the SE/30? Is that normal behavior for a IIe with no disk drives and presumably OS? I'll get pictures of the expansion cards tomorrow. Anyone have some 800k disks I might be able to buy?

I got the whole lot for 50$. He is still finding more in the attic, so there may be more. 😀

/bedtime
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2011-06-28 20:27:51
The Logo Only Plus is a 128k (maybe a 512k?) that's been upgraded to Plus status with a new bucket-n-MoBo.

Nice haul, comrade!
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-28 20:32:25
That is what i had guessed, seeing as only the original 128k came that way. I received that one in a Mac Plus box with all of its original apple branded styrofoam. I guess it was fresh from the refurb.

If anyone has a Plus front and needs an original 128k one let me know.
Posted by: macman142 on 2011-06-28 23:52:58
As stated, the Mac Plus on the left in the photo is a 128k or 512k upgraded to a Mac Plus. It was an Apple upgrade available 'back then' so personally I'd keep it as-is.

The Mac Plus on the right looks like an early beige one, rather than a stained Platinum - correct?

Nice pickup!
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-29 04:25:01
IDK, both of them are pretty yellowed; they look much darker next to the SE/30. The bottom of the non-badged is a bit begier than the badged plus. Neither of them have batteries, one has a bit of corrosion on the tabs. Hopefully this means no internal battery exlosion. I couldn't find the battery case on the SE/30, but it does have an ethernet card card. Sadly, I don't have a T-15 or any 800k disks to try and get any of them running. The badged plus will likely need some solder work on the crt connectors as it starts and sometimes needs a light side tap to show any video. The un-badged takes a floppy and will spit it out. The badged will not take a floppy or spit it out... and now it is stuck.

Overall, the un-badged plus is in about the best shape, along with the IIe as neither of them can do anything, but should work, which reminds me; time for expansion card pictures.
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-29 05:21:59
Apple IIe expansion card pictures:





80 Column card:





Advanced Logic Systems Z-Engine(CP/M clone card):





Super Serial Card II:





And something:







I'm not sure what the something is, some sort of disk controller seeing as the only other port is the serial card. Does that 80 Column card have the 64k RAM expansion, b/c I thought only the extended had the extra RAM?
Posted by: jsarchibald on 2011-06-29 12:30:23
The I/O controller means you can connect a drive up to your machine (like Unidisk or 5.25 drive). The battery is on the mobo on the SE, so you'll need to crack it open.
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-29 20:28:33
Good news on the SE/30:

After a bit of tinkering with some jury rigged tools:



That hole is small, gotta do what you gotta do...

Anyway, the board looked alright overall, the battery was gone, no horribly distorted caps. All RAM slots filled, so it was at minimum a 2MB. After cleaning around all the caps with some alcohol, I pop'd the board back in minus the PDS card and... nothing... then I noticed why the battery was missing...



Apparently it went off like a bomb and tried to eat its way to the floppy drive. Oddly enough, no sign of this on the logic-board or lower pan. Anyway, I tried again, having reset the cables and ROM again and to my surprise, no more lines! I quickly made a 6.0.8 boot disk and popped it in, only to have it reject it. Facepalm, forgot to bless it - over to the duodock - bless folder - back to SE/30 - pop in disk - and VOILLA! (It turned out to be 32MB)



/notsurehwyitiscroppedlikethat, thank you imageshack...

ROM:



Why does it say 512k?

LB #:



And the ethernet card: (Asante of some sort)
Posted by: mcdermd on 2011-06-29 20:37:46
That ethernet card was worth the price of admission alone. Time to put Mode 32 on your boot disk so you can use all that RAM!

If you are looking for leaky caps, I've always seemed to find them around C6 for some reason (the group of four nearest the rear left corner).
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-29 20:44:33
I just closed it all back up for the night, but I still saw smudges when I was done cleaning.(noticed when I brought it back down and away from cleaning stuff) The whole board is due for a run in the dishwasher. I'll be gone all next week, so it'll be a good time to ensure I don't bother it before it dries. Any idea what the socket is on the ethernet card?
Posted by: mcdermd on 2011-06-29 22:15:08
AUI and RJ45.Two different ways to hook up to an ethernet network. If you want to hook the AUI port up to the now-standard RJ45 10/100/1000 networking we all use these days, you will need to have a transceiver in that DB15 port:



Luckily, you have the version with an RJ45 port in addition to the AUI port so you can pretend that the AUI port does not exist. The other version of that card had an AUI port and a BNC connection for connecting into a thin coax network. I have a similar card in my Macintosh SE.
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-30 04:46:21
I could one(or two) for those my DuoDock, but it has the miniaturized version, not the DB-15.
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-30 05:55:03
Well, I snagged a 7.5 disk tools. I got the mode 32 extension and stole a mem control panel from my 270c. It boots fine and sees all 32 mb of RAM and now the SS only uses 1.2 mb.

After wiping the disk stuff of the floppy, I have 168k of space. Anyone know of a semi-decent word processor that will fit on that? I need to type a paper for scouts and it would be a wonderful maiden(albeit: still drydocked) voyage for the SE/30.

EDIT- Anyway to make a RAM disk on an SE/30 under 7.5?
Posted by: trag on 2011-06-30 09:52:34
Any idea what the socket is on the ethernet card?
If you mean the chip socket on the board that mates with the logic board, it is a FPU socket. That ethernet card worked in both the SE/30 and the IIsi. The SE/30 has an FPU soldered to the logic board, so the socket is useless in an SE/30. However, the IIsi lacked the FPU and so the socket was a handy way to add an FPU. It seems like just about every card that could ever plug into the IIsi PDS slot comes with a socket for an FPU.

After wiping the disk stuff of the floppy, I have 168k of space. Anyone know of a semi-decent word processor that will fit on that? I need to type a paper for scouts and it would be a wonderful maiden(albeit: still drydocked) voyage for the SE/30.
There's always SimpleText or maybe back then it was called TeachText. Simple as can be, but ought to fit in the available space. Maybe an older version of MacWrite would fit?

EDIT- Anyway to make a RAM disk on an SE/30 under 7.5?
There was a utility called RAMDisk+. I don't know if it worked on 7.5 though. I definitely used it on all versions of 7.1.
Jeff Walther
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-30 10:01:40
Well, it worked earlier today, but then went back to the exact screen in the first post. I tried swabbing around the caps again, but to no avail. Oh well, I was aware that it was only fixed temporarily. I just hoped that it would be long enough to type my paper. :-/

EDIT- Cleaning #3 and its up again! Though, with some occasional sound crackly garbage. At least I know the caps for sure need replaced. Now to type that paper!
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