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Applesoft BASIC full documentation
Posted by: Apostrophe on 2011-06-21 06:48:44 Ok, so seriously, I need THE authoritative manual for Applesoft BASIC. I was having fun programming random things on my Apple IIc the other day, but I got frustrated since my knowledge of the language is still so limited. I mean sure, I can make pretty colors, but I feel like I can do so much more if I just knew more of the language. So I need the most complete, most authoritative guide to Applesoft BASIC. I know it slightly differs from computer to computer, so let's say IIc and beyond, so that I can keep those floating point integers. And obviously I've looked online, with no such luck. There's plenty of little tutorials, but they're not nearly as in-depth as what I need. Who here knows where I can find such documentation? -Apostrophe
Posted by: david__schmidt on 2011-06-21 07:17:18 http://www.1000bit.it/support/manuali/manuali.asp <- select "Apple Computer Inc." http://www.1000bit.it/support/manuali/download.asp?id=534 http://www.1000bit.it/support/manuali/download.asp?id=533
Posted by: Apostrophe on 2011-06-21 07:47:36 Thanks, much appreciated!
Posted by: Dog Cow on 2011-06-21 08:18:47 Note that those two books predate the Apple IIc, which has a modified version of Applesoft BASIC compared to what's covered in those manuals. The differences aren't huge, mainly things such as 80-column support (HTAB, VTAB) and lower-case commands (print versus PRINT) are added. There are newer Applesoft tutorials and reference manuals published by Apple that are updated with the newer versions of Applesoft BASIC. I don't believe that any scans are available.
Posted by: Apostrophe on 2011-06-21 08:42:03 Yeah, I noticed that as I was reading through the manuals. Another big difference I noted was the lack of support for floating point numbers. And as far as the "newer" manuals go, assuming I ever need them, I'll just look on eBay and see if anyone's selling them. But I'm not too concerned about that right now. -Apostrophe
Posted by: Apostrophe on 2011-06-27 17:21:28 Okay, those manuals have given me all the knowledge I need except one thing. I need to be able to adjust the time delay of the keyboard input buffer so that when I hold down a key, the key registers on the IIc in a regular time interval determined by me. Anyone understand what I mean? If you know the appropriate command/peek/poke/call, etc. let me know. I've searched the most complete peek/poke list I could find, however there is no reference to actually editing the input buffer's time delay. Let me know. -Apostrophe
Posted by: david__schmidt on 2011-06-27 17:27:41 I need to be able to adjust the time delay of the keyboard input buffer so that when I hold down a key, the key registers on the IIc in a regular time interval determined by me. Anyone understand what I mean? Yes, you want to adjust the key repeat delay. however there is no reference to actually editing the input buffer's time delay. Alas, that's because there isn't one; you can't adjust it. Some related references: http://support.apple.com/kb/TA29566?viewlocale=en_US http://www.1000bit.it/support/manuali/apple/technotes/aiie/tn.aiie.10.html
Posted by: Apostrophe on 2011-06-27 17:36:08 Okay, thanks anyway. I'm not sure I want to perform Frankenstein-like surgery on my IIc that way, I'll just have to make do with what I already know. But I'm sure that will be enough. -Apostrophe
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-27 17:53:09 I know nothing about programming, but here are my two sense: Would it be possible to figure the rate at which it does repeat and simply have the system blacklist it so it only hears every 4th. or 5th. or whatever you need? (This appears to be your actual question, that is hardware-ly impossible) or Would it be possible to have the program only be able to accept input at an interval, say every .5 sec. So, even if the program receives a million strokes it can only respond to one every .5 seconds? /IDK, these might not even make sense in a programming sense
Posted by: Apostrophe on 2011-06-27 18:26:33 And another thing I thought, to expand on your question...holding the "a" key down on the Apple is the equivalent of: a.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, etc. What I thought is, I could have it insert a pause if the key is repeated at least twice, therefore the effect is: a...a...a...a...a...a...a...a...a... etc. I think the WAIT command applies here, I'll have to look into it more. But if I can find a way to insert that conditional pause, you know...like, say pressing "a" leads to its own subroutine, and within that subroutine, a filter that would basically say "If a$= "a" then WAIT (however the syntax is.) And I could insert such a pause for each individual letter that I wish to GET, that way I can still establish an interval time rate.
Posted by: theos911 on 2011-06-27 18:31:03 Not being a programmer, you lost me on the syntax, but that is a good idea. Way to think different! (Yup, had to do it)
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