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Posted by: beachycove on 2010-03-12 18:11:46
... because I can't. What is odd is (a) the placement of the Nubus (?) connector, and ( B) the fact that there is a ribbon connector and separate board, meaning it is presumably for an SE, SE/30, or IIsi maybe.
I can't make head nor tail of it and have made no progress from the markings on the board. Unfortunately, one of the stickers has been torn off.
Pics here and here.
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Posted by: Unknown_K on 2010-03-12 18:42:19
Probably an ethernet card for the SE (not SE30, they are different).
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Posted by: beachycove on 2010-03-12 18:59:04
Oh, now that's interesting and makes sense. I had thought that they (SE and SE/30) had the same physical (not electrical) PDS arrangement.
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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2010-03-12 20:07:57
Doesn't look like enough pins for a 32 bit '030 PDS, IIRC the SE was a 16 bit 68000 PDS, which looks about right . . .
. . . but I've been all but asleep for the past few hours at work . . . [|)] ]'> . . . zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Posted by: Unknown_K on 2010-03-12 20:13:56
The SE30 and IIsi have the same PDS slot, but different orientation I think.
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Posted by: Bunsen on 2010-03-13 03:00:17
I had thought that they (SE and SE/30) had the same physical (not electrical) PDS arrangement. What kind of expansion or upgrade slots does my Mac have?
Maybe trawling Applefritter's Nubus Mafia image database will turn up a matching card
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Posted by: beachycove on 2010-03-13 09:01:30
I am pretty much certain that it's for an SE, having now taken one of mine apart for the first time. The slot is the right size, and the board would fit across the logic board and inside the case nicely.
And there is indeed a similar — but not identical — SE Ethernet board ("Technology Works") over on Applefritter's Nubus mafia pages.
SE/30 PDS slots are longer than those of the SE. Yup. I took the trouble to compare the two in the last 12 hours, after UnknownK's post.
Not sure that I want to fry either the SE or the board, however, so I think I will wait for 99.99% confirmation before firing it up.
Now, what to do with it? An SE webserver is certainly a temptation....
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Posted by: trag on 2010-03-15 12:39:54
I am pretty much certain that it's for an SE, having now taken one of mine apart for the first time. The slot is the right size, and the board would fit across the logic board and inside the case nicely. The SE/30 and IIsi have a 120 pin (40 pins X 3 rows) PDS connector. The SE used the 96 pin (32 pins X 3 rows) connector. So what you have there is either an SE PDS slot card or one truly bizarre NuBus card (why would you ever lay a NuBus card on its side?). Hmmmm, I think the LC PDS slot also used the 96 pin connector, but then the backplane connectors would be on the main card and not on a cabled daughter card.
BTW, the card you displayed next to it is an E-Machines Futura IISX, which you may have already known. The daughter cards available for it were a DSP card (to speed Photoshop type stuff) and an Ethernet card. They could not be used simultaneously. The ethernet daughter board has a bug in its driver which is incompatible with Open Transport and only works with Classic Networking. So I find it less than totally enchanting. I wish I knew enough programming to disassemble it and correct the bug...
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Posted by: beachycove on 2010-03-15 14:45:18
Sounds like you have one.
Was the Futura DSP card the same as (i.e., is it interchangeable with) the one available for the last of the Radius Thunder nubus cards, or different? If it were, it would provide a whole new avenue for those searching for one.
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Posted by: trag on 2010-03-16 10:23:35
Sounds like you have one. Yes. I bought a Futura IISX for my IIci back around 1994 or 1995 after SuperMac bought E-Machines (but before Radius bought SuperMac) and SuperMac was clearing out the old E-Machines stock.
Much later, after Radius and Radius Vintage were dead and gone, an Ebay seller appeared who seems to have ended up with Radius Vintage's stock. The seller ID is Macmetex. I bought a couple of the Ethernet daughter cards from him and a second Futura IISX several years ago.
As far as I know he is out of the RJ-45 daughterboard, but he might have some of the coax ethernet daughter boards left. He's still around as I bought a new front panel for my Radius 81/110 from him recently.
Was the Futura DSP card the same as (i.e., is it interchangeable with) the one available for the last of the Radius Thunder nubus cards, or different? If it were, it would provide a whole new avenue for those searching for one. I'd have to look to be sure, but I'm pretty certain they were different. For one thing, Radius had not yet purchased SuperMac/E-Machines when the Radius Thunder IV GX series came out (I think). I could be wrong though. Hmmm. Didn't Radius get some of the technology for the Thunder IV GX from SuperMac? Also, IIRC the Futura card has one connector near the bottom fo the card for the DSP, while the Radius has top and bottom connectors. I also have a very vague memory that the Futura II DSP card had two DSPs on board, where the Radius card had four.
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