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Site works poorly with Classilla
Posted by: noidentity on 2009-11-03 03:05:21
This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂

Posted by: bizzle on 2009-11-03 03:34:56
Change your theme to SubSilver and it works fine.
Posted by: noidentity on 2009-11-03 04:31:12
Excellent. For some reason I didn't think to change the style, even though I've done it on other boards for this very reason. Argh 🙂

Posted by: ClassicHasClass on 2009-11-03 20:29:58
This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂
This is known to me. 9.0.4 does somewhat better. If I can get the overflow code back in (see issue 65), then the site works 100%.
Posted by: John8520 on 2009-11-04 04:58:22
It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂
Just because we use this site to discuss old macs it doesn't mean we have to be able to work on this forum with said old macs. I, for one, have absolutely not interest in browsing the web with my old machines, I like to do with them what was intended, and while they were made to handle HTML/FTP/Gopher they're not particularly well known for processing javascript, CSS, and ajax.
Posted by: ClassicHasClass on 2009-11-04 22:28:05
It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂
Just because we use this site to discuss old macs it doesn't mean we have to be able to work on this forum with said old macs. I, for one, have absolutely not interest in browsing the web with my old machines, I like to do with them what was intended, and while they were made to handle HTML/FTP/Gopher they're not particularly well known for processing javascript, CSS, and ajax.
Obviously I'm slightly biased given my project, but why not? It's not like the site can't gracefully degrade for older tech (it's themeable after all). There are always reasonable compromises that can be made for accessibility, and it *is* fun to get older machines doing modern tasks if for no other reason than to say you can. (Or, in my case, because you actually prefer the older Mac OS.) 😎

Posted by: Quadraman on 2010-01-21 12:13:15
This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂
If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content. 😛

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue. 😛 😛

Posted by: ClassicHasClass on 2010-01-21 20:42:55
This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂
If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content. 😛

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue. 😛 😛
How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon. 🙂

Posted by: Green78II on 2010-01-22 12:55:45
This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂
If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content. 😛

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue. 😛 😛
How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon. 🙂
I'l have to try it on my G3 then :beige:

Posted by: Quadraman on 2010-01-24 17:37:48
This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂
If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content. 😛

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue. 😛 😛
How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon. 🙂
Sounds interesting. Glad to see it is still improving. Every little bit brings it that much closer to the modern era. How's it run under Sheepsaver with 9.0.4? My new Powerbook G4, which is my fastest classic capable machine, came loaded with Leopard so no classic mode for me. 🙁

Posted by: ClassicHasClass on 2010-01-24 21:09:33
This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂
If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content. 😛

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue. 😛 😛
How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon. 🙂
Sounds interesting. Glad to see it is still improving. Every little bit brings it that much closer to the modern era. How's it run under Sheepsaver with 9.0.4? My new Powerbook G4, which is my fastest classic capable machine, came loaded with Leopard so no classic mode for me. 🙁
I don't officially support Sheepshaver, but I am told that it works fine in it. Classilla will run on 8.6 and up (8.5 under duress), so Mac OS 9.0.4 should be no problem.

I don't have an ETA for Classilla 9.1, but it will be "soon." In the meantime, Classilla 9.0.4 does rather better on the MLA if you turn on the experimental renderer (View > Use Experimental Renderer or Cmd-Shift-X). This overrides certain settings in layout with laxer ones. While it makes the site kind of messy, everything should show up and be clickable.
Posted by: Quadraman on 2010-01-26 14:11:31
This site requires turning off stylesheets when viewed with Classilla 9.0 (View->Use Style->None), each time the link is opened in a fresh window/tab. It's somewhat ironic, considering the target audience of this site. 🙂
If you read the Classilla site, they recommend using iCab for sites where you have to use CSS or turn them off in Classilla because the support is not good. Of course, if you're still surfing using Classic, any browser you use is going to have trouble with modern web content. 😛

And most of the target audience of this site also has at least one computer capable of using a reasonably modern browser so it's not really an issue. 😛 😛
How timely. Tonight I'm posting from my current internal build of the forthcoming Classilla 9.1. And may I say the MLA has never looked better in it. Watch for it coming soon. 🙂
Sounds interesting. Glad to see it is still improving. Every little bit brings it that much closer to the modern era. How's it run under Sheepsaver with 9.0.4? My new Powerbook G4, which is my fastest classic capable machine, came loaded with Leopard so no classic mode for me. 🙁
I don't officially support Sheepshaver, but I am told that it works fine in it. Classilla will run on 8.6 and up (8.5 under duress), so Mac OS 9.0.4 should be no problem.

I don't have an ETA for Classilla 9.1, but it will be "soon." In the meantime, Classilla 9.0.4 does rather better on the MLA if you turn on the experimental renderer (View > Use Experimental Renderer or Cmd-Shift-X). This overrides certain settings in layout with laxer ones. While it makes the site kind of messy, everything should show up and be clickable.
We better be careful or Bunsen will show up and lecture us about nesting quotes. :lol:

Posted by: ChristTrekker on 2010-01-26 14:34:59
🙂
😛

😛 😛
🙂
🙁
:lol:
Bah! I'm going to be a }🙂 about it, and if he gets , then I'll just :lol: for awhile, and if he's still :-/ and :disapprove: , then I'll just :-* and make up even if he's :O or 8-o , and I'll :-x from then on. Unless he goes all :rambo: on me, in which case I'll be xx( or :scrambled: . Like, :?: the heck, man, I'm just trying to be 😎 and stuff. Don't get so > 🙁 about the deep quoting!
Posted by: Mike Richardson on 2010-01-26 17:28:41
Posted by: IPNixon on 2010-01-26 17:46:39
that's what she said.
Posted by: macgeek417 on 2010-01-26 21:03:11
You should AT LEAST do some basic smoothing. That'd look much better if you ran it through hq4x or something
Posted by: Anonymous Freak on 2010-01-26 22:29:57
You should AT LEAST do some basic smoothing. That'd look much better if you ran it through hq4x or something
Sometimes, the pixelation is a desired part of the effect.
Posted by: Mike Richardson on 2010-01-27 17:39:06
The contrast between the pixelated Mac image and the smooth anti-aliased, yet retro Chicago font is part of the unique unreproducible artistic expression.
Posted by: Mars478 on 2010-01-28 04:22:03
It's perfect.
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