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Power PC G4
Posted by: MacDan on 2008-07-08 15:43:27
Today I rescued a Power Pc G4. It was going to eWaste and the owner contacted me. The only thing missing is the monitor. :'(

I can put it in my room because it came with an Airport Extreme card!

I'm quite glad.

Posted by: russman on 2008-07-08 16:13:12
Wow i wish someone would give me a G4 for free, good find man. Those things are extremely powerful for the time and for their clock speed. They still sell for lots too.

Posted by: luddite on 2008-07-08 16:18:14
Wow i wish someone would give me a G4 for free, good find man. Those things are extremely powerful for the time and for their clock speed. They still sell for lots too.
Indeed. There's still lots of life left in any G4 so long as you avoid Flash ;-)

Posted by: Unknown_K on 2008-07-08 16:20:44
G4s (early ADC ones) should be freecycle finds sooner or later. I would like to find something with AGP for free.

Posted by: IPNixon on 2008-07-08 20:16:25
Wait; it came with an AirPort 'extreme' card, or a regular AirPort card?

If the latter, nice score; those are a bit lusted after today.

If the former, what model tower is it? If it really is an AirPort extreme card, then you've got yourself a nice tower, 'cause it's possibly a mirrored-drive-door G4 or something new like that.

Posted by: funkytoad on 2008-07-08 23:05:59
Congrats, sounds like a swell machine.

Posted by: MacDan on 2008-07-09 07:51:14
Wait; it came with an AirPort 'extreme' card, or a regular AirPort card?
Yes, it's an Airport Extreme card. Flat, shiny all over and measures about 2'' X 1''.

If the former, what model tower is it? If it really is an AirPort extreme card, then you've got yourself a nice tower, 'cause it's possibly a mirrored-drive-door G4 or something new like that.
Nope, it's the standard 10 GB HD, 400 MHz, 64 MB RAM, CD/DVD Optical. I wish it was the fancy mirrored door one though. It also came with other miscellaneous things. Among them another 400 MHz Processor. Question is, can I put that other one in to make it 800 Mhz?

I smell OS X and Halo (if possible) being installed.

Posted by: JRL on 2008-07-09 07:56:53
There is only one processor slot, so no.

You can use the spare processor to upgrade your Beige G3s though!

Posted by: MacDan on 2008-07-09 09:35:28
There is only one processor slot, so no.
You can use the spare processor to upgrade your Beige G3s though!
Hmmm. Now you got me thinking. Can I do that to the iMac?

Posted by: MrMacintosh on 2008-07-09 10:00:14
Nope. The iMac G3 233-333MHz, tray-loading, series is limited to its own breed of processor cards (233-333MHz), or a limited number of third-party upgrades (HARMONi). The G4 uses a much different processor.

Posted by: John8520 on 2008-07-09 11:19:48
A 400Mhz G4 wouldn't have an Airport Extreme card, it would have to be a Sawtooth cause the Yikes! never had an Airport slot. Also, OSX will run if you bump the RAM to 512 (it will work with less but is a waste of time) and halo will not run on any mac under 1.2GHz.

Also the processor the sawtooth uses doesnt work with a Beige G3 or an iMac, only with other sawtooths (sawthii?) and maybe a few later G4s. Now, they also made the Yikes! G4 which used a G4 ZIF that -was- compatible with the Beige G3, and the B&W G3, however this machine wouldn't have an Airport slot so there is a bit of confliction.

Posted by: MacDan on 2008-07-09 13:19:16
A 400Mhz G4 wouldn't have an Airport Extreme card, it would have to be a Sawtooth cause the Yikes! never had an Airport slot. Also, OSX will run if you bump the RAM to 512 (it will work with less but is a waste of time) and halo will not run on any mac under 1.2GHz.
Also the processor the sawtooth uses doesnt work with a Beige G3 or an iMac, only with other sawtooths (sawthii?) and maybe a few later G4s. Now, they also made the Yikes! G4 which used a G4 ZIF that -was- compatible with the Beige G3, and the B&W G3, however this machine wouldn't have an Airport slot so there is a bit of confliction.
It is a sawtooth. Sorry for not clarifying.

Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-07-09 16:21:48
A 400Mhz G4 wouldn't have an Airport Extreme card, it would have to be a Sawtooth cause the Yikes! never had an Airport slot. Also, OSX will run if you bump the RAM to 512 (it will work with less but is a waste of time) and halo will not run on any mac under 1.2GHz.
Also the processor the sawtooth uses doesnt work with a Beige G3 or an iMac, only with other sawtooths (sawthii?) and maybe a few later G4s. Now, they also made the Yikes! G4 which used a G4 ZIF that -was- compatible with the Beige G3, and the B&W G3, however this machine wouldn't have an Airport slot so there is a bit of confliction.
It is a sawtooth. Sorry for not clarifying.
A Sawtooth wouldn't have an Airport Extreme slot. My Digital Audio is a later machine than the Sawtooth and only has an original Airport slot and Airport Extreme came after that. As far as I can tell, the Firewire 800 is the only G4 Powermac to support Airport Extreme.

Posted by: Bunsen on 2008-07-09 16:30:52
It also came with / another 400 MHz Processor. Question is, can I put that other one in to make it 800 Mhz?
The dual CPU G4s are on a single module that goes into the same (one) CPU socket as the single G4s. So, no.

A Sawtooth is a way better score than a Yikes, IMHO, simply because the range of available CPU upgrades is much better, and cheaper, than those for a ZIF socket. And you have an AGP video card slot as well. Have a look at xlr8yourmac.com's G4 Systems page for more info.

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