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PC Card to HDSC
Posted by: raoulduke on 2015-02-14 16:08:18
I just got one of these (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027VL2F2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).  I figured it was 50/50 it'd work and don't specifically need it but I'm curious if anyone knows how to get it to work (if possible).

I believe there are drivers in firmware - for XP and Vista.  I've tried it with a 128 mb and a 16 gb HDSC card.  On insertion, it offers to format 2 mb (i.e. it's not actually reading the HDSC card - maybe the 2mb is the firmware in the PC Card, I'm not sure if it means anything).  Are there drivers for OS 8?

[unrelated, there was some defect with the slotting and it abrasively rubbed against the bay runner until I tore the plastic bit off the card (now it inserts properly).  All in all pretty amazing product.]

Posted by: techknight on 2015-02-15 05:43:28
umm... again... CARDBUS vs PCMCIA....

research it please!

Posted by: raoulduke on 2015-02-15 10:13:45
Okay...  So 5300 cannot read Cardbus (?).  I'm exchanging this one anyway.

Is there a way to localize VM?  Like could I designate only the PCMCIA card as virtual memory?  Guessing not...

Because you (I think you) were right.  Classilla is unbearable; but I'm almost positive it's just a RAM issue.  But RAM is nearly impossible to find for the 5300.

Posted by: techknight on 2015-02-15 15:22:33
Yea, and expensive. Also even if you had all the RAM in the world, classila is unstable with no virtual memory . 

I dont know if they make SD to PCMCIA converters, but they do make PCMCIA to compactflash adapters. You can get a pretty decent size compact flash card for virtual memory. 

As far as being able to tell the OS where to store virtual memory, that part I do not know. 

Posted by: raoulduke on 2015-02-15 17:17:47
Yea I think that's not possible.  And VM isn't the issue - yes expense is.  But I also can't find a lot of spare 5300 DRAM cards.  Unity had an 8 mb.  24 lets me run OS 8.6... lol.  So basically it's my typing computer since I'd probably have to tether through my phone at which point... why wouldn't I just be using firefox on my phone?  If I do well this semester I'll buy a 1400 or something, maybe.

Posted by: CC_333 on 2015-02-15 19:10:12
It's easy to tell the OS where to put the VM file, except I don't think it supports removable drives (only fixed disks). Wouldn't hurt to check, though?

The option of which I speak is in the Memory control panel. It's a drop-down menu to the right of the other VM options, and above the selector that determines how much space on whichever disk is selected (usually the startup disk by default) is reserved for VM.

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Posted by: Elfen on 2015-02-16 09:57:46
I use PCMCIA to CF and PCMCIA Flash Memory cards (SanDisk has a few >1GB Flash Memory Cards, seen them on Ebay), on System 7.5/7.6 on my PB 190 & 5300 and System 7.6 and OS 8 on my 1400s and Wallstreet G3. All of them are bootable and useable. It was the first of my SSD Experiments long ago and now I have them as system Back Ups in case of HD Failure. No drivers are needed for PCMCIA with Macs that I seen so far. (See note below)

Personally I never seen a SD to PCMCIA adapter, and like TechKnight said, there is a difference between PCMCIA and CardBus cards though they might slide into the slot. I also seen but never tried, and it might be better for you, a SD to CF Adapter, which you can use in a PCMCIA and it should be bootable. Keyword is "Should Be."

This ebay link is to show you what a SD to CF Adapter looks like, it is not that I am recommending the seller.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Arrival-SDXC-SDHC-WIFI-SD-to-Type-I-Compact-Flash-Card-Adapter-CF-ADAPTER-/261749536654?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf17cf78e

Note: Mind you, I am talking about 68K and PPC Mac powerbooks. I have yet been able to get them to boot up a PC Laptop even though I read the instructions, put in drivers, formatted cards and etc. If I can get a PC laptop boot from PCMCIA, I'd be dancing a jig, I swear! But as far as Macs go, you can boot from PCMCIA memory cards and PCMCIA/CF memory cards.

Posted by: raoulduke on 2015-02-16 13:44:12
Personally I've never had a PCMCIA-enabled PC.  Until a few weeks ago I had only ever used the standard on Newton.  So I apologize for my confusion.

I will do some experimenting on the 5300.  My original thought with the card was to partition the $8.50 16gb SDHC I got in two - one for Newton, one for Mac - and download all of UNNA to the Newton partition.  I had no real thoughts for the Mac one, but now I'm thinking maybe 8 gb of VM. I suspect the performance will be garbage.

As for PCMCIA to SDHC... who knows.  http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MFVG9XO/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1423959645&sr=8-1&keywords=digigear+pcmcia

It's an exchange so if it doesn't work it was a wash anyway.

Posted by: IPalindromeI on 2015-02-16 15:32:42
Some ThinkPads of the time support PCMCIA boot. You're better off just attaching it directly to the IDE bus though.

Posted by: raoulduke on 2015-02-16 15:43:57
That's an interesting idea. Are the pins the same and just spaced differently??

Posted by: techknight on 2015-02-16 16:03:22
Some ThinkPads of the time support PCMCIA boot.

Which was awesome, because it came in handy with PCMCIA based CDROM drives. Which I think I still have one kicking around somewhere. 

Posted by: IPalindromeI on 2015-02-20 03:21:57
Yes, CF is just IDE. A passive adapter is all that's needed.

Posted by: register on 2015-02-20 13:56:06
Also PCMCIA (16-Bit, no Cardbus) to SDHC card adapters have been made, like the Delock brand adapters.

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