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Posted by: gavo on 2008-04-04 19:35:35
I can probably guess the answer to this, but.... did/do any of ethernet cards that were released for the Apple II series support Ethertalk (i.e. Appletalk over ethernet)?
Cheers,
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Posted by: luddite on 2008-04-04 23:16:27
No, I'm afraid there's no such thing... If you're looking to transfer files ADT Pro works with the Uther card. Another option is to run a web server and use Contiki to grab files.
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Posted by: Aoresteen on 2008-04-05 00:38:56
You can get the AIIe network card that uses Local Talk connectors and share ProDos files to an AppleShare 2.0.1 server. Works well.
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It one reason I run AppleShare 2.0.1 on an SE/30.
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Posted by: II2II on 2008-04-05 03:21:34
Yes, you do have ethertalk for an Apple IIgs.
Grab a LocalTalk to EtherTalk adapter. Plug it into the printer port of your IIgs. I'm not sure that it will work with the latest version of Mac OS X, but I have definitely used it to connect to iMacs (ethernet only) and Linux (appletalk will not go over a rs-232 port, at least for macs).
Yes, I know this is cheating because you won't get ethernet speeds. But at least you can interface an Apple IIgs to newer hardware or non-Apple hardware.
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Posted by: gavo on 2008-04-05 12:12:00
Yes, you do have ethertalk for an Apple IIgs.
Grab a LocalTalk to EtherTalk adapter. Plug it into the printer port of your IIgs. I'm not sure that it will work with the latest version of Mac OS X, but I have definitely used it to connect to iMacs (ethernet only) and Linux (appletalk will not go over a rs-232 port, at least for macs). Interesting. The whole netatalk (on linux) thing is what got me thinking about this. I dont suppose you tried booting your IIgs from the Linux box with your ethertalk/localtalk adaptor did you? I notice that netatalk seems to support apple II boot.
I suppose this approach (the adaptor) would work with an Apple II series workstation card as well? I think I'll go google localtalk to ethertalk adaptors 🙂
Cheers,
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Posted by: macdownunder on 2008-04-05 17:56:20
Interesting. The whole netatalk (on linux) thing is what got me thinking about this. I dont suppose you tried booting your IIgs from the Linux box with your ethertalk/localtalk adaptor did you? I notice that netatalk seems to support apple II boot. I did try a couple of years ago and couldn't get anything on the Apple ][ to work when connected to an Apple Network Server running Yellowdog Linux 2.1 and Netatalk (the Mac side all worked as expected).
I suspect that we're limited to Appleshare 3.x for booting an Apple ][ over the network.
Regards,
Macdownunder
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Posted by: II2II on 2008-04-05 19:54:25
I never tried booting the Apple IIgs from netatalk (think I tried AppleShare server 2.x at one point though). If you have trouble with the 2.x series of netatalk, then try 1.6 since that is what I was using at the time. While I think they retained Apple II compatability in the 2.x series, it may take some tweaking.
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Posted by: luddite on 2008-04-05 20:52:58
Booting GS/OS over Localtalk is highly overrated... it's hideously slow. I never really understood the point of network booting a IIe.
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Posted by: II2II on 2008-04-05 21:10:53
Netbooting GS/OS allows you to load more functionality without an expensive hard drive controller. Since I've heard that the speed is comparable to a floppy diskette, you also remove the need to juggle floppies.
I'm not sure how netbooting would even work on a IIe, but I could imagine it being useful in schools. I remember the process of signing out a folder with the floppies while doing stuff in a Jr. High computer course. In retrospect, that was probably done to avoid having stuff walk off. (Even if there is no ill intent, teens forget.)
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Posted by: gavo on 2008-04-05 21:37:13
Stop by and visit my Apple Collection:
http://macdownunder.no-ip.info/ Dude, I just checked out your collection and nearly fell off my seat!!j
Niccccce!
🙂
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Posted by: gavo on 2008-04-05 21:39:38
Booting GS/OS over Localtalk is highly overrated... it's hideously slow. I never really understood the point of network booting a IIe. Yes, well, actually, now that I think about it - I'd say it would be way down on my options list for practical use in 2008 - I think a CFFA card or something would be much more useful - but for something to do on a rainy day, could be a laugh to play with this stuff 🙂
I personally never saw it used in production.
Cheers,
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