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Posted by: Aoresteen on 2008-04-03 18:07:18
I'm planning to build an AppleShare 4.0.1 server to run on a Q605. I will use OS/8.1.
The machine will be configured as follows:
132 MB RAM
PDS Ethernet
Internal boot drive HFS - size ??
External SCSI tower with:
9 gig SCSI HFS+ Shared Drive
CD burner
Tape Drive
SyQuest Drive
Software:
OS 8.1
AppleShare 4.0.1
Toast
Retrospect
The question that I have is what size drive do I need for the interal boot drive? Will an 80mb drive hold everything or do I need a larger drive? I don't want to waste a 2 gig SCSI drive that would have most of the space empty.
The Server will hold System 7, 8, and 9 files. My AS 2.0.1 server has Sys 6 and earlier files.
I know I could run ASIP 6.x on an OS 9 machine but I want a 68040 server (this is a 68K board, no?).
Thanks!
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Posted by: beachycove on 2008-04-04 04:47:23
Your server will have to run 7.1 (best) or 7.5. Appleshare 4 does not run (properly - you can get some functionality with 8.1, but it is flaky) on anything higher.
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Posted by: equill on 2008-04-04 05:12:42
Full story is available in Apple's artnum=16145. 4.0.1 or 4.0.2 is recommended for all '040-based Macs but Q660AV and 840AV.
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Posted by: Aoresteen on 2008-04-04 08:25:47
Full story is available in Apple's artnum=16145. 4.0.1 or 4.0.2 is recommended for all '040-based Macs but Q660AV and 840AV.
de Rats! I spent an hour reading that last night but missed the 7.1. I wanted 8.1 so I could use HFS+ on the 9 gig shared drive as a single volume. So I will have to break it down to HFS 2 gig partitions.
What size boot drive will be needed? Seems to me a 160mb ought to do it.
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Posted by: equill on 2008-04-04 08:44:01
Drive size depends not only on what you need for storage but on what the System/OS can address, and on the drive's format. Large drives with HFS can be extremely wasteful of 'space'. I was transferring files from an inherited (with a 9600) 18GB drive formatted HFS(!) recently. Min. file size was 278kB, by contrast with the 2-16kB that you will get with HFS on smaller drives that are contemporary with the Systems that you are considering. File size can be a fixed min. 4kB under HFS+, but OS 8.1 and up is needed to cope with HFS+.
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Posted by: beachycove on 2008-04-04 09:42:10
I tried this years ago, and seem to recall that the File Server will run under 8.1, but not the Print Server. (I wanted the latter: it was a Color Classic/ Mystic, and I wanted the OS8 GUI just to show it off - a CC in the corner running 8.1 that well - impossible! - AND make it useful as a bridge between a Cube and a Laserwriter 4/600, but the Print Server was inoperable under 8.1, and the project died.) YMMV, but you could give the File Server idea a shot, as there's nothng to lose but an idle hour in setting it up.
What the performance/ stability would be like in use I don't know, but I suspect that there might be anomalies.... I do know that Appleshare 4 under 7.1 is very solid.
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Posted by: Aoresteen on 2008-04-04 12:56:50
I tried this years ago, and seem to recall that the File Server will run under 8.1, but not the Print Server. .... I do know that Appleshare 4 under 7.1 is very solid. I don't need the print server so I guess I will try the file server under 8.1.
Next step is to locate a copy of AS 4.0.1. Any suggestions? I didn't see any on ebay.
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Posted by: meall on 2008-05-03 15:41:33
Hi,
I'm reading this, as I would like to do something similar.
My question is more basic that it could be: where can I find AppleShare (any version) ? Is it something Apple let go a while back as freeware? I've been searching but nothing so far.
Thanks
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Posted by: equill on 2008-05-04 07:09:37
If they are not distributed on a system install disk they were originally paid-for applications (perhaps with free updates in the fashion of System software). AppleShare 4 falls into the paid-for category. The link in post 3 above will give you the recommended version for a given System/OS. This long after, the search will be long and arduous.
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