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Posted by: publisud on 2008-03-12 07:30:05
:'(
I have a system failure on a quadra 650 (system 7). Can I reboot the mac using a CD (system9) or a floppy PPC 4400 & G3 If not what do I need I can't find the original floppy's. When I startup I have a sad mac with 0000000F and 00000002
Any help would be appreciated
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Posted by: QuadSix50 on 2008-03-12 08:09:39
Check your RAM. I remember getting the Sad Mac a few times with my Quadra 650 and I believe it was RAM related. Try reseating them or cleaning out the contacts on the modules themselves.
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Posted by: publisud on 2008-03-12 08:22:11
I've tried that. Was there a floppy or a CD sold with the quadra to boot drive on? If I can get it to start up I might be able to reinstall a new system. If so what was the procedure?
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Posted by: TheNeil on 2008-03-12 10:25:42
You need to get yourself to the Apple download site and download a startup floppy image (anything system 7 should be fine). This should allow you to get into your Quadra and check what state it's in.
If the worst comes to worst and you can't find any install media or can't repair the machine, the Apple site linked to above has several complete sets of Mac OS install disks to download and use.
All of this assumes of course that you can get past the 'sad Mac' stage. Try pulling all of the RAM and boot with no SIMMs installed at all - if this works then your memory could be damaged and you'll have to try working through the modules until you find the stick that's gone AWOL
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Posted by: publisud on 2008-03-13 01:17:27
Which one of these can I use to make a floppy startup. Is there a procedure, keybaord key to hold down etc...?
Utilities Software Downloads
Macintosh/Utilities/DART_Info.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/About_This_Software.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_4.2.sea.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_4.2.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_6.3.3.smi.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_6.3_Scripts.smi.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_6.3_Scripts_Info.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_Manual_6.1.2.img.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_Manual_6.1.2_Info.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Image_CM_Plugin_1.3.img.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Image_CM_Plugin_1.3_Info.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_First_Aid/Disk_First_Aid_7.2.2.sea.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_First_Aid/Disk_First_Aid_7.2.2.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_First_Aid/Disk_First_Aid_8.2.smi.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_First_Aid/Disk_First_Aid_8.2_Info.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_First_Aid/Disk_First_Aid_8.6.1.smi.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_First_Aid/_Disk_First_Aid_8.6.smi.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/About_This_Software.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.0.5.sea.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.0.5.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.2.sea.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.2.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.3.1.img.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.3.1_Info.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.5.smi.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.5_Info.txt
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.6.1.smi.bin
Macintosh/Utilities/Drive_Setup/Drive_Setup_1.6.1_Info.txt
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Posted by: TheNeil on 2008-03-13 02:05:27
You need to get the Macintosh/Utilities/Network_Access_Disk_7.5.sea.bin disk image (from the Apple site). This'll create you a startup disk which you can start you machine up with. I can't remember what does/doesn't come on those disks in terms of disk tools so give that a try first and see.
To actually create the floppy disk you'll need to use one of your other Macs (the 4400 will probably be best). If you don't have Disk Copy already, download Macintosh/Utilities/Disk_Copy/Disk_Copy_4.2.sea.bin (again, from the Apple site), run that (on the 4400) and then use it with the Network Access Disk image (run the downloaded disk image by double-clicking on it, then drag the resultant file onto Disk Copy icon) to create the startup floppy for your Quadra.
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Posted by: vassilizaitsev on 2008-03-13 02:40:30
:'( I have a system failure on a quadra 650 (system 7). Can I reboot the mac using a CD (system9) or a floppy PPC 4400 & G3 If not what do I need I can't find the original floppy's. When I startup I have a sad mac with 0000000F and 00000002
Any help would be appreciated Quadra's run up to system 8.1, not 9.
Download 8.1 or before (Don't know if 8.1 is availabel for free download, I bought my copy from ebay & it's been very good to me)
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Posted by: bluekatt on 2008-03-13 03:16:28
8.1 is only availble as an upgrade from apple
get a os 8 disc in that case
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Posted by: TheNeil on 2008-03-13 03:26:32
OS 8 hasn't been released by Apple as a 'freebie' (as far as I know) but the 8.1 upgrade has.
Stick with OS 7 - your machine will feel quick speedy...and it's free (apart from the very, very, very final releases) 😉
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Posted by: publisud on 2008-03-13 03:43:15
I created the floppy but the mac ejects it when I reboot
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Posted by: Bolle on 2008-03-13 08:34:12
my PPC quadra 650 runs OS 9.1 😉 😛
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-03-13 08:50:47
my PPC quadra 650 runs OS 9.1 😉 😛 How did you get 9 to install? I can only find one site that details installing 8.5 but only a few machines are covered. There are links there for getting 8.6 to work but all those are broken and I have never seen anything about installing 9 to a PPC Quadra.
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Posted by: equill on 2008-03-13 10:18:20
... When I startup I have a sad mac with 0000000F and 00000002 ... $0F is a 68K exception, translating as a software error. In this case, stemming from unsuitable startup software, most probably. The only completely free, complete System available for download after System 7.0 is, luckily for you, 7.5.3. Although it was first released as an update, Apple has made it available as a virtual Reference Release (an upgrade), which is normally available only by purchase. The updates have always been free, but incomplete unless you already have the relevant Reference Release to update from.
Go here. Download to a PPC Mac by all means, but decompress/decode only after transfer to the target Mac into a single folder on the Desktop. To boot the Mac and transfer the 19-part image (on one floppy disk, 19 times, or on 19 floppies, as you please), you will need the Network floppy (cited above) to boot the Quadra, run Disk First Aid and re-install the hard disk driver.
When the Quadra can stand on its own feet in 7.5.3, you can download and install the
update to 7.5.5. It will repay you to prowl around that Apple downloads site for tips about 7.5.5 installation, and many other goodies.
de
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Posted by: publisud on 2008-03-13 10:58:15
Just like to thank TheNeil for all his help the quadra finaly started on the floppy. I still have memory problems though, anyone know where I can buy SIMMs suitable for this computer
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Posted by: TheNeil on 2008-03-14 01:51:36
Just like to thank TheNeil for all his help the quadra finaly started on the floppy. I still have memory problems though, anyone know where I can buy SIMMs suitable for this computer No problems 🙂
As for RAM, the Quadra 650 uses 72 pin SIMMs so they're usually pretty easy to get hold of via eBay. As you're in France, shipping from the UK wouldn't be too bad so, if you run out of other options, I might be able to dig some modules out.
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Posted by: publisud on 2008-03-14 03:07:55
I've put out some feelers locally but no joy yet I'm afraid, If you can find me a bar or two let me know the price, I've got family in the north of England so payment could be easily arranged and post would'nt be a problem
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Posted by: TheNeil on 2008-03-14 04:20:21
I've put out some feelers locally but no joy yet I'm afraid, If you can find me a bar or two let me know the price, I've got family in the north of England so payment could be easily arranged and post would'nt be a problem I'll have a look tonight when I get home from work and see what I can dig out. As for price then if you cover the postage (and maybe added on the price of a pint 😉 ) then I'd be happy
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Posted by: trag on 2008-03-14 08:55:38
If it turns out that TheNeil doesn't have SIMMs available, shoot me a note. I have a bunch of 72 pin SIMMs on hand and am happy to ship to France. trag@io.com
Jeff Walther
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Posted by: publisud on 2008-03-17 01:56:41
I'm running on system 7.1 and need to get an update to system 7.5.5 (french version) so I can connect a hard disk formac 3go with a scsi cable
I could then store most of the files I need on this and run the quadra with only its system. Anyone know where I can get the update?
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