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Posted by: wood_e on 2008-02-25 05:58:22
Is this even possible? I have a powercurve 601 (with a G3 upgrade) sitting in my closet that I'm going to get running sometime. Could I add in a USB2 card and have full USB 2 functionality? My logic says no, but maybe I'm wrong...
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Posted by: equill on 2008-02-25 06:10:03
USB 1.1, yes, possibly. Beyond that, your logic is spot on. I don't know which Mac 601 architecture (Piltdown, Catalyst, Cold Fusion, Carl Sagan, TNT) the PowerCurve approximates, but it will have to be PCI rather than NuBus, or no-go at all. Even then it may be a struggle, or a slightly faster struggle with a G3 upgrade installed. And (at least) OS 8.6 installed.
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Posted by: wood_e on 2008-02-25 06:33:12
My powercurve is a PCI based mac. Not sure what OS I will run on it but I would like USB... it's not a requirement, but it would be nice. I'm actually considering running 7.6.1 on the old thing. I don't think I have any other good installs of the "classic" mac OS.
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Posted by: equill on 2008-02-25 06:46:42
Support for LaCie USB external peripherals exists in LaCie's Silverlining driver from at least v6.2.1 upwards, and maybe v6.1.x (if such exists). 6.2.1 will not run under/with Mac system software less than v7.5.2. Whether you could use this to attach a USB peripheral successfully is speculative at best. It was not for nothing that I quoted OS 8.6. Fully PPC-native code and the earliest comfortable USB support by Apple comes with that version.
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Posted by: Bolle on 2008-02-25 08:12:06
USB 2.0 only works under OSX... i have an USB 2.0 card in my 9500 and it works quite nice and fast under 10.4.11. in OS 9 only the USB 1.1 card in there works.
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Posted by: register on 2008-03-21 14:13:28
The OrangeMicro USB2/FW combo card works well in a 7200 with OS 9.1. It should be supported from OS 8.6 on. It is even possible to install a well running OS 9.2.2 on older PowerMacs to have the most recent driver software (use OS9helper). I have tried this with a 7200 and a PB1400 successfully. I found a cheap USB host adaptor (not Mac specific made) working on a beige G3, but _not_ on a 7200.
As Bunsen said: USB2 functionality is not given on system software pre OS X, no matter what the host adapter is capable of.
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Posted by: Bunsen on 2008-03-21 15:55:19
USB 2 support however requires OS X. In OS 9 and below your USB 2 card reverts to USB 1.1. With enough RAM, you could possibly get OS X on that beast with XPostFacto
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Posted by: Anonymous Freak on 2008-03-21 16:01:19
Bolle and Bunsen have the right answer.
USB 2.0 "High Speed" will only be possible in OS X 10.2 or higher. (I think it's 10.2.6 specifically, but I might be wrong on that one, and it's even possible that there is a hack that lets it work in 10.1.) In OS X 10.0, 10.1 (from what I recall,) or OS 8.1 to 9.2.2, any USB card that works will operate at USB 1.1 "Low" or "Full" speed. Before OS 8.1, USB isn't possible at all. (I seem to recall a hack that made it work in 8.0, but I can't find any reference to it now, and I know it won't work in 7.x.)
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-03-21 17:32:57
Is this even possible? I have a powercurve 601 (with a G3 upgrade) sitting in my closet that I'm going to get running sometime. Could I add in a USB2 card and have full USB 2 functionality? My logic says no, but maybe I'm wrong... USB 2.0 requires OS X 10.2.8.
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Posted by: macintoshme on 2008-03-26 10:11:51
I remember when I got an iPod Shuffle. I had installed a USB 2 card in my AIO, and now that I think back, I probably had one of the oldest supported computers to run that iPod. 😀
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Posted by: QuadSix50 on 2008-03-26 12:08:13
So if you were to even use a Linux/ppc distribution, you could theoretically get USB 2.0 working with a USB 2.0 card, no? I had wondered that myself.
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-03-26 12:24:51
I remember when I got an iPod Shuffle. I had installed a USB 2 card in my AIO, and now that I think back, I probably had one of the oldest supported computers to run that iPod. 😀 I hear iTunes is requiring Tiger or Leopard now.
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Posted by: ~tl on 2008-03-26 12:37:48
I remember when I got an iPod Shuffle. I had installed a USB 2 card in my AIO, and now that I think back, I probably had one of the oldest supported computers to run that iPod. 😀 I hear iTunes is requiring Tiger or Leopard now.
iTunes still runs on 10.3, but all of the new iPods officially need 10.4... I'm not sure if that's true though, because my brother uses a new shuffle on 10.3 [🙂] ]'>
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Posted by: MultiFinder on 2008-03-26 13:56:14
I remember when I got an iPod Shuffle. I had installed a USB 2 card in my AIO, and now that I think back, I probably had one of the oldest supported computers to run that iPod. 😀 I hear iTunes is requiring Tiger or Leopard now.
The current version of iTunes does, yes.
/me rocks out with iTunes 2 under OS 9
😉
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-03-26 14:41:29
I remember when I got an iPod Shuffle. I had installed a USB 2 card in my AIO, and now that I think back, I probably had one of the oldest supported computers to run that iPod. 😀 I hear iTunes is requiring Tiger or Leopard now.
The current version of iTunes does, yes.
/me rocks out with iTunes 2 under OS 9
😉
I'm surprised you're still able to connect.
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Posted by: ~tl on 2008-03-26 14:47:04
I'm surprised you're still able to connect. Connect to what? The iTunes Store wasn't added until version 4...
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Posted by: LCGuy on 2008-03-26 16:40:09
/me rocks out with iTunes 2 under OS 9
😉 *beats you by rocking out with iTunes 1.1 under OS 8.6* 😛
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Posted by: Anonymous Freak on 2008-03-26 18:48:58
haha! I win! SoundJam MP 1.0 on Mac OS 7.6.1!
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Posted by: QuadSix50 on 2008-03-26 19:20:26
haha! I win! SoundJam MP 1.0 on Mac OS 7.6.1! I was waiting for someone to pull out the SoundJam card. 😛
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