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Posted by: madmann on 2008-02-18 03:16:43
Just saved a 7600 I got it for 15$
I bid on the other 2 meg vram and 4 sticks of 5v dimm.
I also have a 400 mhz g3 coming
i will run 8.6 or 9.1 for usb support what would you advise?
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Posted by: QuadSix50 on 2008-02-18 08:02:25
Awesome!
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-02-18 13:40:10
Download OS9Helper and get 9.2.2 installed on that. 9.2.2 has a few new features and bug fixes and is noticeably speedier than 9.1. Most drivers that still offer support for 9 also require 9.2.2, such as the latest ATi drivers.
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Posted by: madmann on 2008-06-19 19:27:14
I am going to turn it into a cad station
i am adding the zip drive to the 7600
I know the radeon 7000 will work in this machine ? will the 7500 also work?
or a rage 128 their cheap
I also have a radeon 9800 pci in my b&w would it work?
the next task is os9 helper to get to 9.2.2 :b&w:
michael
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2008-06-19 22:25:19
If you can find either a Mac edition or are comfortable flashing video cards, then a 7500 would work.
A 9800 in PCI? I never heard of that before. The fastest Radeon in PCI has always been the 9200 or a flashed 9250. The 9500-9800 have always been AGP. The only cards comparable to a 9500-9800 are flashed nVidia FX5x00 or 6200 cards in PCI.
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Posted by: sylwiusz on 2008-06-20 01:52:53
Buy a cheap, fast Ultra 3 SCSI card like ATTO UL3S and modern high RPMs hard drive. I use in my PM7600/G3/400 18GB Seagate Cheetah 15k3 (15000 RPMs) and it is "wicked fast" - not only seek timing is minimal, but read transfer averages at 65 MB/s (measured using ATTO Tools) - 6x more than builtin SCSI and more than 2x as fast as Sonnet Ultra 66 IDE controller. Both things - controller and disk you can buy cheaply off ebay.
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Posted by: paws on 2008-06-20 03:01:02
Don't you need special SCSI cards to be able to boot a Mac from them?
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Posted by: sylwiusz on 2008-06-20 03:09:53
Yes, you do, it's a matter of proper Mac-aware firmware. And ATTO cards are among these few bootable on Mac, you can download latest software and firmware for them from www.attotech.com I bought my Atto UL3S, capable of transfers up to 160 MB/s for about $10, they are quite popular and easy to spot and buy for a low price.
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Posted by: paws on 2008-06-20 03:51:11
So any ATTO PCI SCSI card will work (in an Old World Mac)? You don't need a special Made-For-Mac version?
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Posted by: sylwiusz on 2008-06-20 03:56:32
No, contrary to Adaptec ATTO produced one type of card for all systems, at the same price. It is only a matter of firmware. There was no special designation "for Mac" coming with mine, I just flashed it with the latest firmware available for OS 9 and it works like a charm now 🙂
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Posted by: paws on 2008-06-20 04:01:44
That is very good to know. Thank you!
I got some dead-quiet 80 pin HDs a wee while ago, and it'd be nice to quiet down some of the olde machines with them.
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Posted by: madmann on 2008-06-20 10:09:52
you are correct i have a 9200 pci i drifted off when i wrote that sorry
[:I] ]'>
so the atto card is used for an external hd or does it have a connection for internal hd.
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Posted by: sylwiusz on 2008-06-20 10:29:27
Cheetah is mounted internally via good LVD cable with terminator ;-) Mind you however that 15 k rpms disks have quite strong vibrations, so can be quite audible although their own acoutics are not on high levels 🙂
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Posted by: madmann on 2008-06-21 10:13:17
whilst digging through my stuff i found and adaptec pci to scsi card
it has a 68pin external and a 50 pin internal connectors
it is an aha-2930cu
rom version 4.2
and i have a 68 pin scsi running now in the 7600 with that 68 to 50 pin adaptor.
it looks like i need a cable to go from the hd 68 pin to 50 pin on the card.
does this sound right?
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Posted by: sylwiusz on 2008-06-22 00:54:31
2930 at max transfer of 20 MB/s would be about 2x faster than internal fast SCSI of 7600. But it still would be 3x slower than modern wide SCSI disks are capable of 🙂 What exact model of disk do you have in 7600 now?
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Posted by: madmann on 2008-06-22 08:49:12
i have a seagate cheetah st318305lc hard drive with a plug on card to adapt from 68 pin "i think" to 50 pin
thanks for the advice.
michael
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Posted by: Bunsen on 2008-06-22 09:39:33
ATTO produced one type of card for all systems, at the same price. / I just flashed it with the latest firmware available for OS 9 and it works like a charm now 🙂 That is really good to know. Thanks [😀] ]'>
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Posted by: sylwiusz on 2008-06-22 23:32:44
i have a seagate cheetah st318305lc hard drive with a plug on card to adapt from 68 pin "i think" to 50 pin
thanks for the advice. Then this drive works as a narrow SCSI device and 2930 sould be more than enough. To achieve faster transfers (> 60 MB/s) you'd have to change controller to Ultra 3 SCSI type, LVD cable and LVD capable disk 🙂
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Posted by: madmann on 2008-06-24 15:55:35
what about using a sonnet tempo 133 ide card. that would run close to the 160 mbps correct. it would be much faster than the scsi 2 or am i wrong. i have several ide 133 drives and a tempo 133.
also i have been looking for the atto card and they are like $200+ what gives?
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