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Japanese System Software
Posted by: heebiejeebies on 2007-11-27 17:09:45
Buenos días mi pequeño coles,

You can put System 6 on a PB 140 and PB 170. There was a special Japanese release (6.0.7.1J from memory) that supported them - probably because System 7 in Japanese was delayed? There are instructions on the web about how to cut and paste string resources to work with it in English.
Any more info on this, anyone? Anyone got a link to the instructions or to the Japanese system software?

~ El Heebos

P.S. Obviously someone in Qatar has been listening to a ‘power of positive thought’ cassette [😀] ]'> :

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Apple-Power-Book-170_W0QQitemZ120185951761QQihZ002QQcategoryZ12QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

Posted by: Flash! on 2007-11-27 18:43:17
I have a Japanese Sytem 7.5 if you're interested

Posted by: Kallikak on 2007-11-27 19:33:51
Has to be version 6.0.7.1J for this trick to work. You can get it from http://www1.linkclub.or.jp/%7Ekenfuji/KANJI%20Talking.htm and I have archived a description of the process at http://school.anhb.uwa.edu.au/personalpages/kwessen/web/misc/powerbooksys6.html

Ken

Posted by: heebiejeebies on 2007-11-27 19:48:33
Flash, I'm only really interested for the sake of being able to run System 6 on a PowerBook. But thanks anyway!

Kallikak, thanks, that tutorial will be helpful ! But I presume the downloads I need are the 2 system disks under the heading

KANJI Talking 6.0.7.1 2HD-FD [?]

In which case I'm out of luck because it gives me a 404 !

Posted by: mvallance on 2007-11-29 06:00:08
Try

http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/syslist.html

I am in Japan so will physically look too. I will ask some Japanese Mac users at my uni .

MUGS Japan (Tokyo specifically) is at http://ringo.net/forum

if you wish to ask there too.

Michael

Posted by: Kallikak on 2007-11-29 14:09:05
Try again - I just downloaded all 4 disks successfully:

KANJI Talking 6.0.7.1 2HD-FD

SYSTEM起動用_image

SYSTEM追加分_image

Font1.image

Font2.image

Posted by: heebiejeebies on 2007-11-29 14:46:34
Mvallance, domo arigato gozaimasu for your effort! *patronising bow* The version I need isn't on Gamba's page... It may not be necessary for you to ask around if I can get Kallikak's page to work!

Alas, I can't... I think it must be something to do with this computer not rendering Japanese characters properly. I have the 2 font disks but not the system disks themselves. Any chance you can e-mail them to the MSN Messenger address that's in my profile, Kallikak? Purdy please? ;D

Posted by: equant on 2007-11-29 20:07:15
I've followed some of the conversations about this trick, and I'm curious... Doesn't anyone have a copy of 6.0.7.1J with the resedit english mods already done? Or is this some right of passage for 140/170 owners? 😛

Posted by: mvallance on 2007-12-06 06:04:06
Not very successful yet. I have one more person to ask tomorrow. I will keep you posted.

Michael

Posted by: mvallance on 2007-12-11 23:28:15
Not good news. I have asked everyone I know here who use Macs and all started with OS 7.1 and above. Tried MUGS Tokyo also but no positive responses there either :-(

Michael

Posted by: heebiejeebies on 2007-12-17 14:05:20
Thanks very much for your effort, mvallance. I actually have it now because Kallikak was kind enough to download & e-mail it to me. Oh and equant - you'd think someone would have done that, huh? I'll post it if I can manage to edit it successfully (not going to bother editing it at the moment because I don't actually have a PB140/170 yet).

Posted by: equant on 2007-12-17 14:20:57
Heebiejeebies,

Is it a big enough project that we could split it up? Give people different chunks of resource to edit to English? I'm willing to help.

Nathan

Posted by: elbaroni on 2007-12-17 14:39:54
Hi all,

I've run into the same problem — I can only get the two font disks. Would it be possible to post the images to the hotline server? Or, if someone felt like emailing the first two to u3364813 [at] anu.edu.au

I've got a PB 170 all set up (with ResEdit and all) to do some or all of the work required.

By and by, I see that there's an eBay auction for the [reportedly] appropriate developer CD:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130178045731

Posted by: equant on 2007-12-17 14:44:06
I'm more than willing to host the disk images, just need to get them.

Nathan

Posted by: heebiejeebies on 2007-12-17 15:22:40
Heebiejeebies,
Is it a big enough project that we could split it up? Give people different chunks of resource to edit to English? I'm willing to help.

Nathan
Doesn't appear to be too big a project - Ken posted the instructions above. Looks reasonably easy.

Posted by: heebiejeebies on 2007-12-17 15:24:20
By the way, I couldn't get them to load at all anyway - the files unzipped OK but when I made disks from the images most of the files on the disks ended up as garbage instead of working system files.

Posted by: elbaroni on 2007-12-17 17:03:17
Heebiejeebies emailed the images to me (thank you again). I'll have a go at following Kallikak's instructions when I get home tonight.

Posted by: Kallikak on 2007-12-17 18:31:36
By the way, I couldn't get them to load at all anyway - the files unzipped OK but when I made disks from the images most of the files on the disks ended up as garbage instead of working system files.
Are you sure it was garbage and not just Kanji being improperly displayed?
Posted by: heebiejeebies on 2007-12-17 20:13:41
On the 2nd disk, some of the icons display properly as suitcases and print drivers and so on, but most show up as blank document icons and refuse to open when double-clicked. On the first disk, they all show up as blanks! And my SE/30 won't start up from it, (though I'm not sure if it's supposed to anyway).

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