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PCI Cards for PowerMacs
Posted by: pee-air on 2007-09-22 17:45:51
What PC PCI cards can be used in a Macintosh?

I know that I can use certain PC Ethernet cards in a PowerMac, and use them in Classic Mac OS -- depending on driver availability. I know that I can use just about any PCI ethernet card in existence on a PowerMac running Linux.

I know that I can plug PC USB and Firewire cards in my PowerMac and use them with the proper drivers.

What other types of PCI cards can I take from the PC world and use in a PowerMac? Will SCSI or ATA cards from the PC side work in a PowerMac?

I know that some video cards from the PC world can be flashed to work on a Mac. What other kinds of PC goodness can be used in a PCI PowerMac?

Posted by: MacJunky on 2007-09-22 21:24:50
Stay away from Sil0680 based cards.(like my STLab A-142 ATA/133 RAID)

Posted by: pee-air on 2007-09-22 23:29:07
Why's that? It doesn't work? Or, it doesn't work well?

Posted by: MacJunky on 2007-09-24 04:55:35
Does not work. OS 9's ASP knows something is there but cannot tell what it is or use it and OS X's ASP cannot see it at all. Well, with mine at least.

Posted by: MultiFinder on 2007-09-24 06:29:18
*insert USB card in 6500 huggling here*

Posted by: MacJunky on 2007-09-24 07:37:06
That reminds me, my 7300/200 came with a 2 port USB 1 card that I used in my Sawtooth until I got it a 5 port USB 2.0 card. It is an entrega PCI-2U

Chipset:

OPTI

FireLink

82C861

149923

10UE

If you absolutely need images I could toss it on the scanner.

Posted by: LCGuy on 2007-09-24 14:46:31
Ayup, MacJunky...anything with an OPTI 82C861 chipset should definately work on a Mac...Apple actually used those chipsets on Mac mobos...my iMac has that exact chipset.

Posted by: alk on 2007-09-24 20:03:10
Anything USB/FireWire that is OHCI or EHCI compliant will work in OS 9 and X.

Other cards that don't require boot-time operation (Ethernet, capture cards, specialized accelerators, what have you) can generally work in both PCs and Macs provided that drivers for the operating system exist. Cards that do need boot-time operation (bootable SCSI, IDE, video, etc) require Mac drivers in ROM or firmware (such as Open Firmware) on the card. Typically, these cards are not interchangeable between operating systems without flashing.

Peace,

Drew

Posted by: MacJunky on 2007-09-24 22:31:19
Anything USB/FireWire that is OHCI or EHCI compliant will work in OS 9 and X.
That is not what I found when my sister got an apparently OHCI compliant VIA based USB 2.0 card. It has since been returned though so I can't get any more details. Perhaps we should change that from "will work" to "should work"?
Other cards that don't require boot-time operation (Ethernet, capture cards, specialized accelerators, what have you) can generally work in both PCs and Macs provided that drivers for the operating system exist.
Reminds me of the MPX EN5038A1 based 10/100 Base-T card that my Sawtooth could see as an ethernet card but not actually use. :\
Might go poking around the local PC shops for cards to test sometime.

Posted by: coius on 2007-09-24 23:07:53
sound cards are a hit-and-miss. I had a friend with a DA that used a PCI Soundblaster AWE32 PCI card in his, after he pulled it out of a PC that died, and it worked fine under OS X (OS X actually saw and used it w/o drivers). sadly, OS 9 doesn't see it.

But it works pretty good. All he needed it for was so he has RCA non-GAIN boosted ports (non-preamped) so he could convert his RCA Record player system into MP3s (RCA-style ports record player.)

Posted by: Bunsen on 2007-09-24 23:09:28
Any USB 2.0 card (that otherwise works in a Mac) will only show up as a USB 1.1 card in OS 9. Driver issue. It will show as USB 2 in OS X.

Posted by: Charlieman on 2007-09-25 11:39:19
I've had success with Opti chipset USB 1.1 and 2 cards, but not Via. From what I recall of the XP SP2 and Vista beta programs, Microsoft had problems with them too.

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