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Posted by: digitalrampage on 2024-07-30 15:30:18
I didn't even think about that. I sincerely apologize, things haven't been going so well for me as of late and I should have thought twice before posting something like that. Honestly I would rather not be involved in this drama any longer (provided it goes on), since I see where they are coming from now.
In fact I kinda regretted writing that soon after I posted that message. I remember now they've done quite a lot for the community and I think I should have thought of that before vehemently writing that. Honestly I would be interested in the project, but I shall respect what they'll do with it.
I am deeply sorry for anything I said that has hurt anyone here. Please ignore that message from now on...
The greatest thing about having an opinion is being big enough to have one, and strong enough to change it.
When this project is done, I’ll arrange to send you one of the bezels for the cost of shipping if you have a bad G3 iMac and can use it to fix it up.
I’m a backer of this project, and I harassed @maceffects for years to get this done. |
Posted by: digitalrampage on 2024-07-30 15:37:34
Are you accusing me of libel for commenting on a reference to a code that indicates the opposite is true compared with what was asserted? Please expand on that. How you going on that STL file?
Download link yet? |
Posted by: derekdavidkent on 2024-07-30 15:39:43
How you going on that STL file?
Download link yet? Nope. As stated I’ll have to order a new old stock OEM part and will either 3D scan it, make measurements or remix it or a combination of these techniques, and as I’m not a cad expert but just have some experience it will take time.
Were you unable to read all that the first time I stated it or are you just being childish? |
Posted by: 68kPlus on 2024-07-30 15:48:29
Nope. As stated I’ll have to order a new old stock OEM part and will either 3D scan it, make measurements or remix it or a combination of these techniques, and as I’m not a cad expert but just have some experience it will take time.
Were you unable to read all that the first time I stated it or are you just being childish? Will 3D printed parts be strong enough to support the weight of a CRT? I've never 3d printed anything and I don't know much about the bezels on slot loaders, only tray loaders. |
Posted by: derekdavidkent on 2024-07-30 15:49:38
Will 3D printed parts be strong enough to support the weight of a CRT? I've never 3d printed anything and I don't know much about the bezels on slot loaders, only tray loaders. Yes they will indeed. |
Posted by: 68kPlus on 2024-07-30 15:52:16
Yes they will indeed. Okay well let us know when you've made your file, we look forward to seeing how well it fits 👍 |
Posted by: digitalrampage on 2024-07-30 15:53:03
Nope. As stated I’ll have to order a new old stock OEM part and will either 3D scan it, make measurements or remix it or a combination of these techniques, and as I’m not a cad expert but just have some experience it will take time.
Were you unable to read all that the first time I stated it or are you just being childish? Wonderful news. Let me know once it’s ready.
Actually just let me know when you find a NOS bezel. I’m sure Mr Polkadots has one for you. |
Posted by: digitalrampage on 2024-07-30 15:55:12
Okay well let us know when you've made your file, we look forward to seeing how well it fits 👍 I’m super excited. 30 pounds of glass with wood screws held together by 3D prints. What could possibly go wrong.
Well other then it failing and cracking the neck/yolk. |
Posted by: finkmac on 2024-07-30 15:55:46
Wonderful news. Let me know once it’s ready.
Actually just let me know when you find a NOS bezel. I’m sure Mr Polkadots has one for you. wow this is rather hostile to someone offering to help out the community. Sad. |
Posted by: derekdavidkent on 2024-07-30 15:58:07
Okay well let us know when you've made your file, we look forward to seeing how well it fits 👍 Will do! I’ll be sure to print it in a few materials and do some testing.
ABS will be the best material most likely. PLA+ is very good as well but ABS has proven strength for these types of applications. Very functional material. |
Posted by: digitalrampage on 2024-07-30 16:03:01
wow this is rather hostile to someone offering to help out the community. Sad. Help out the community? He could have offered to help without taking a dump on others peoples work and ethics.
You don’t help by telling people their time and work is worthless and arbitrarily get into arguments.
I’m just pointing out the absurdity through satire.
If he wanted to help, he could have started his own thread when he made the STL, not bullied and tried to defame someone else’s business model and try and get others to join in. |
Posted by: maceffects on 2024-07-30 16:03:54 For those wondering, I believe the only ABS part on the iMac G3 (as compared to polycarbonate) is this bezel. Unfortunately, as you can see, they added fire retardant (“FR”) which is the root cause of extreme brittleness. This structural bezel needed to have the rigidity of ABS as it held the CRT and connected all other plastic components together.
Several attempted prints in ABS and SLA were done and each failed in either strength or in fitment. |
Posted by: derekdavidkent on 2024-07-30 16:06:54
Help out the community? He could have offered to help without taking a dump on others peoples work and ethics.
You don’t help by telling people their time and work is worthless and arbitrarily get into arguments.
I’m just pointing out the absurdity through satire.
If he wanted to help, he could have started his own thread when he made the STL, not bullied and tried to defame someone else’s business model and try and get others to join in. Nobody said anyone’s work is worthless. My suggestion was that the mesh be sold. I never said otherwise. You should take back your nonsense comments. |
Posted by: 68kPlus on 2024-07-30 16:12:10
Help out the community? He could have offered to help without taking a dump on others peoples work and ethics.
You don’t help by telling people their time and work is worthless and arbitrarily get into arguments.
I’m just pointing out the absurdity through satire.
If he wanted to help, he could have started his own thread when he made the STL, not bullied and tried to defame someone else’s business model and try and get others to join in. Exactly. I was being sarcastic. |
Posted by: Torbar on 2024-07-30 16:19:41
I’m super excited. 30 pounds of glass with wood screws held together by 3D prints. What could possibly go wrong.
Well other then it failing and cracking the neck/yolk. An actual picture of Derek's iMac Bezel project
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Posted by: 68kPlus on 2024-07-30 16:20:14
For those wondering, I believe the only ABS part on the iMac G3 (as compared to polycarbonate) is this bezel. Unfortunately, as you can see, they added fire retardant (“FR”) which is the root cause of extreme brittleness. This structural bezel needed to have the rigidity of ABS as it held the CRT and connected all other plastic components together.
Several attempted prints in ABS and SLA were done and each failed in either strength or in fitment. This is exactly what I was concerned about. It's just not a good idea to print such a structural part.
I'm not trying to hate on you @derekdavidkent but you're causing drama that isn't needed. |
Posted by: maceffects on 2024-07-30 16:23:43
This is exactly what I was concerned about. It's just not a good idea to print such a structural part.
I'm not trying to hate on you @derekdavidkent but you're causing drama that isn't needed. To be clear, I have no objection to anyone wanting to explore for themselves. I’d be happy to offer and feedback I can, but I’ve been down this road before with 3d prints of the bezel and it ended badly. Just don’t want MacEffects associated with an inferior part. There are some applications for 3d printed parts that community members do with great success. I fully support these projects. |
Posted by: Tarantulas on 2024-07-30 16:25:05
Are you accusing me of libel for commenting on a reference to a code that indicates the opposite is true compared with what was asserted? Please expand on that. What I asked is if Canada had libel laws. Because in the US, you have to be careful about how you impugn individuals and businesses in written form. There is a point where things bypass fair criticism, and pass into legally actionable speech.
Make sure you’re on the right side of the laws that govern your neck of the woods. |
Posted by: 68kPlus on 2024-07-30 16:29:03
To be clear, I have no objection to anyone wanting to explore for themselves. I’d be happy to offer and feedback I can, but I’ve been down this road before with 3d prints of the bezel and it ended badly. Just don’t want MacEffects associated with an inferior part. There are some applications for 3d printed parts that community members do with great success. I fully support these projects. That's totally fair - you don't want to potentially be responsible for people damaging their Macs and that is completely reasonable. If Derek wants to make his own bezel for his Mac that's fine, but he needs to understand why others won't follow 🤷 |
Posted by: derekdavidkent on 2024-07-30 16:34:19
For those wondering, I believe the only ABS part on the iMac G3 (as compared to polycarbonate) is this bezel. Unfortunately, as you can see, they added fire retardant (“FR”) which is the root cause of extreme brittleness. This structural bezel needed to have the rigidity of ABS as it held the CRT and connected all other plastic components together.
Several attempted prints in ABS and SLA were done and each failed in either strength or in fitment. What did you print the ABS parts using and what was your infill percentage? |
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