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Mac LC and DB15 to VGA adapter problem...
Posted by: bibilit on 2020-10-28 00:45:59
You should use the proper floppy to format the drive and install a new system (floppy #2 disk drive utilities IIRC)

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-28 00:59:36
You should use the proper floppy to format the drive and install a new system (floppy #2 disk drive utilities IIRC)
I used disk tool floppy disk. 
i checked again what brane and model hdd is

this is a fujitsu hdd

https://stason.org/TULARC/pc/hard-drives-hdd/fujitsu/M2682SAM-353MB-3-5-SL-SCSI2-FAST.html

i have a configuration as on photo. Can You check is that is correct?

#2 disk has more possibilities with hdd operations than disk tool?

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I also checked a ram. Mac is working with 2MB onboard ram. Two Sims that I have are 2x 1MB unfortunately. Then I have to find 2x2 or 2x4MB .

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Posted by: cheesestraws on 2020-10-28 05:00:03
#2 disk has more possibilities with hdd operations than disk tool?


The tool you want is called HD SC Setup, and it's on the Disk Tools disk (that's what it's called in English, I'm afraid I don't know what it's called in Polish, but it's probably very similar).

You may need a patched version to see non-Apple drives.  I have a patched Disk Tools disk with that on that I can send you, if it would be useful.

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-28 06:51:15
The tool you want is called HD SC Setup, and it's on the Disk Tools disk (that's what it's called in English, I'm afraid I don't know what it's called in Polish, but it's probably very similar).

You may need a patched version to see non-Apple drives.  I have a patched Disk Tools disk with that on that I can send you, if it would be useful.
thanks, send me this patched disk tools if You can, please. It would be very useful. 

Posted by: cheesestraws on 2020-10-28 08:00:43
thanks, send me this patched disk tools if You can, please. It would be very useful. 
Try this:

View attachment 7.5.3 Disk Tools 1 with hacked HD SC setup.dsk

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-28 08:49:12
Try this:

View attachment 38397
which app should I use to create disk from dsk image?

Posted by: cheesestraws on 2020-10-28 08:50:55
which app should I use to create disk from dsk image?
On what OS?  OS X?

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-28 09:14:03
On what OS?  OS X?
windows 10 or OSX Mojave

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-28 09:30:29
Unfortunately It does not work

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Posted by: bibilit on 2020-10-28 12:33:26
A termination issue ?

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-28 13:20:02
A termination issue ?
how to check it?

Posted by: bibilit on 2020-10-30 02:40:09
https://stason.org/TULARC/pc/hard-drives-hdd/fujitsu/M2682SAM-353MB-3-5-SL-SCSI2-FAST.html

I am afraid your SCSI disk is probably not supported by the LC

CNH1 11-12 SCSI level
----------------------
x 11-12 CLOSED SCSI-2 mode
OPEN SCSI-1 / CCS mode




Will probably won't work, only the SCSI SE (single ended) is playing fine with this type of machines, everything else is hit or miss:

If there is a chance that the power to the HDD containing the
terminating resistor will be turned off, design the system so that
power to the terminating resistor (TERMPWR) is supplied from another
SCSI device. Generally, TERMPWR is supplied from the initiator
(host).


Posted by: johnklos on 2020-10-30 09:14:58
SCSI-1 and SCSI-2 aren't incompatible. Older Macs can communicate with any non-differential SCSI drive so long as they're cabled properly and terminated properly. For example, I'm using a 70 gig 2.5" 320 MB/sec SCA SCSI drive with an LC III+ without any issues, but the SCA adapter had to have termination on it.

Look for a program called SCSIProbe, perhaps.

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-30 12:50:11
https://stason.org/TULARC/pc/hard-drives-hdd/fujitsu/M2682SAM-353MB-3-5-SL-SCSI2-FAST.html

I am afraid your SCSI disk is probably not supported by the LC

CNH1 11-12 SCSI level
----------------------
x 11-12 CLOSED SCSI-2 mode
OPEN SCSI-1 / CCS mode




Will probably won't work, only the SCSI SE (single ended) is playing fine with this type of machines, everything else is hit or miss:

If there is a chance that the power to the HDD containing the
terminating resistor will be turned off, design the system so that
power to the terminating resistor (TERMPWR) is supplied from another
SCSI device. Generally, TERMPWR is supplied from the initiator
(host).
I will check this one. Maybe it will work. I afraid that it will very hard to find working scsi 1 hdd.

Posted by: cheesestraws on 2020-10-31 03:24:10
I afraid that it will very hard to find working scsi 1 hdd
There are still quite a number of them around.  They're not that rare 🙂 .

If worst comes to worst, when the Arduino SCSI thing is finished, that will be a low-cost low-performance option to play with.

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-31 05:15:25
There are still quite a number of them around.  They're not that rare 🙂 .

If worst comes to worst, when the Arduino SCSI thing is finished, that will be a low-cost low-performance option to play with.
sorry, somehow I change post, but I don't know why my reply was placed on the other topic... 🙂

I am starting test scsi-1 mode on my hdd, cross fingers 🙂

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-31 05:27:15
It’s working. System found hdd 🙂

thanks for help 🙂

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Posted by: cheesestraws on 2020-10-31 05:29:55
It’s working. System found hdd 🙂
Woot!  That's a good sign.

Posted by: dragon_x on 2020-10-31 16:59:03
Woot!  That's a good sign.
🙂  I installed system 7.1 🙂

It is working well, hdd has 340MB 🙂

is there any benchmarks or stability tests for this Macs?

I have to work on adapter switch configuration for use full screen area.

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Posted by: cheesestraws on 2020-11-01 02:16:37
🙂  I installed system 7.1 🙂
Yes!  Another one lives!

is there any benchmarks or stability tests for this Macs?
I think MacBench is the one that most people seem to use around here.

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