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Posted by: Bunsen on 2016-01-06 20:15:34^^^^ 🙂 ok u said 650 + *800* not *700* my badIt really depends what you want to do. If you want Nubus slots for later expansion? Sure, go for one of those. You'll need to find an Mac monitor (or a Mac to VGA adapter) to go with, as is true for any 68k Mac apart from the "classics". If you just want to mess around with serial port MIDI literally any working 68k Mac will do. How far are you from Toronto? There should be a ton of them kicking around there. Your best bet as far as this thread's idea goes is to order a 630 logic from uni and one of his 50-pin-adapted SCSI drives. Drop that in your 5200 and bam, you're in business. Then you can mess around with IDE shenanigans another time. Ask nicely and he might even overclock it for you. Or just grab a working 630/640 and monitor, and if you get keen on this idea again later you can try the board swap yourself. | |
| Posted by: supernova777 on 2016-01-07 15:23:19 ok doesnt look like macdrone is going to chime in guess this thread is over.. thanks guys | |
| Posted by: uniserver on 2016-01-08 03:26:11 he will chime in, everyone has their process, He's got a big house with lots of mac's. I'm sure he will get to it... i'm just a git r dun kind of a guy. that is mainly why my customers love me so much as my turn around is usually sick fast. I'm behind right now though, i was pretty sick from new years eve till mostly tuesday of the next week. And honestly i still kind of feel like crap. When i lugged the 5260 out of the shed for you i believe it was monday, that was a bad day as my ears were ringing... but i grabbed my flashlight and trekked out into the cold , it was only 12 degrees F here... i had to stomp all of the ice in front of the doors to the shed as they were iced in, and then had to force one of them open as there must have been a ground hog that also swelled up the dirt directly in front of the shed doors, only to realize that my wife had stacked "stuff" one of those Fan exercise bikes with the swinging handles. and a family of 5 camping odds and ends including Camp chairs... the tent for 8, and other assorted camps stuff, after i fumbled around for about 20 minutes in the cold with just a pocket led flash light that has 90% dead batteries that had begun to cause the LED's to flicker strobe like... i was able to grab this yellow monster, kinda felt my back snap as i reached down low to get it. heaved it up there on my shoulder, kicked the shed door back into place, didn't realize the my wife had let the dog out and he is kind of a dummy ran at me full speed as i was walking with this thing on my shoulder and he started to slide and fall ground as he came up to me, almost took me and the 5260 out. He's a pit bull so there is quite a bit of mass on that knuckle head. Made it to the car, put it on the rear car seat, only to realize one of my fingers had kind of partially froze to the crt glass that was fun. Started the 30 minute one way drive to my office, only to un load, test and promptly post my results of the test. The good news is the Analog of my 5260 must be in pretty good shape because when i fired it up, it was still cold and the Tube came right on normally with out any weird noises... so that is also a good thing. When popped that q630 in the 5200 chassis, and everything worked, Sound, Video, Buttons on front, Serial, ADB, SCSI, CD-ROM, I was completely convinced it was golden... i had booted the machine with OS 8.1, from the external scsi port. Didn't honestly think anything of the fact the IDE wasn't booting as i knew it had mac os 8.6, and Drive setup showed the IDE drive there. and that was when the chain of events happened where i pulled the HD out and replaced it with the 500mb from the q630. The later discovering the IDE was not working. Even after trying the 40gig... its a 40 gig not 80 that was in the 5200. Even after trying the 40gig in the q630, with the q630 mb back in it, was able to Partition it... format it, (slowly) copy 8.1 over to it... and it booted right up... then took the same mb and hd back into the 5200 chassis. only to notice it was not booting, more then likely due to some kind of to and fro wiring anomaly, so the real question is who's paypal address do i send the bill for my time? My hourly rate is a low $36 an hour, I figure, I have about 3 hours or so into this project. | |
| Posted by: MJ313 on 2016-01-08 06:28:56 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhI88tg1Gqg | |
Posted by: Bunsen on 2016-01-08 18:03:58guess this thread is over..Dude, seriously... this entire hack was your idea. Sooner or later you're gonna have to practice some digital extraction and just do it yourself. Between uniserver's efforts and my "just use a frickin SCSI drive already", we've already handed you a working solution on a plate. What the heck more do you want? | |
| Posted by: uniserver on 2016-01-09 08:17:49 guys… i just got good news form David Shepard…. From Facebook I have both a 630 and a Performa 5260, and have successfully swapped the logic boards on them in the past, worked fine. Essentially, the 5260 becomes a Performa 580, and the LC 630 becomes a Performa 6320. All LC 580 series, LC 630 series, and Performa x200/x300 series all use the exact same edge connector with the exact same pinouts, it only changed with the x400 and x500, which introduced the 3.3V rail also, the IDE in mine worked perfectly *shrugs* | |
| Posted by: uniserver on 2016-01-09 09:20:05 ok i rifled through the box o hard drives i got from hap. i grabbed a 30gb Maxtor, poped it in, and it said cannot boot this, it was 9.22 so i booted it back up with scsi zip 8.1 and disk utility saw it… and let me re-partition it. So i did and, now i'm doing the dreadfully slow 89 meg copy from scsi zip to 30gig maxtor… so IDE is working at the moment. -- with this certain hard drive.  | |
| Posted by: Paralel on 2016-01-09 13:52:32 Ah, so it might be very drive sensitive... | |
| Posted by: uniserver on 2016-01-09 15:04:28 or i am having one of those Murphy's law kinda moments with my IDE hard drives over here. the original 500mb from the 630 is not booting in the 630 any more... spins up, just doesn't do anything. so not sure what is going on... the original 40 gb, might of had condensation on it when i tried it that night from being cold. 🙂 | |
Posted by: Bunsen on 2016-01-10 18:16:01the IDE in mine worked perfectly *shrugs* i grabbed a 30gb Maxtor, poped it in … so IDE is working at the moment. -- with this certain hard drive.. Awesome news. | |
| Posted by: Bunsen on 2016-01-10 19:22:33 Who knows, maybe it just works better if it's formatted in the new machine for some reason. Non-matching pinouts on the data line, perhaps. | |
| Posted by: Paralel on 2016-01-11 07:14:06 Its almost impossible to say without a larger test sample. One is the weirdo, we can't say which at this point. | |
| Posted by: supernova777 on 2016-11-15 19:35:32 did the quadra 630 also support the video in/out module that the 5200 CD supports? | |
Posted by: supernova777 on 2016-11-16 11:21:10ok i rifled through the box o hard drives i got from hap.seems to coincide with info on this page: http://lowendmac.com/1994/quadra-630/
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| Posted by: supernova777 on 2016-11-16 11:46:55 will the CD drive still work once the 630 Motherboard is swapped into the 5200CD AIO chassis? | |
| Posted by: supernova777 on 2016-11-23 12:06:57 is there alot of apps that were never ported to powerpc code? that are still used by 68k only cpus? | |
| Posted by: supernova777 on 2016-11-23 15:18:50 would the known lack of support for "handshaking" on the performa 5200CD's serial + printer ports stop OMS from detecting any MIDI Interfaces at all? im trying different serial cables now.. but i cant seem to get the 5200 to see my Studio 3 Opcode interface or my 64XTC either... i guess the 5200 really is a useless road apple! if this is the reason why... | |
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2016-11-23 18:12:37did the quadra 630 also support the video in/out module that the 5200 CD supports?Those modules were developed FOR the Quadra 630. They're rudimentary, but they're the coolest thing about the series. Gottahaveit! [😀] ]'> If your Quadra case is in good shape, drop a 6500 board in there, unlike the 6360/6400 generation, the MoBo rolls its own 3v for PCI so the standard PSU would be good to go.. | |
Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2016-11-23 18:21:40will the CD drive still work once the 630 Motherboard is swapped into the 5200CD AIO chassis?Should be fine. If you're having serial port problems, first thing is to make sure there's no evil MoDem card in the ComSlot. | |
| Posted by: supernova777 on 2017-02-26 00:31:27 note to admin: 630 in 52xx is there anyway we can retitle this thread a bit more verbiose so that it can be found more easily? i was just looking for the thread for awhile because i was searching "performa" + "quadra" keyboards maybe adding the word "motherboard swap" aswell? Quadra/Performa 630 Motherboard in a Performa 5200CD even the word 52xx doesnt even make any sense i think bunsen or whoever split the thread was trying to copy this nomenclature: Performa x200/x300 seriesi think the thread title should say "Quadra 630 Motherboard in a 5200 series Performa" at least | |
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