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| Pin slot on G3 Whisper Perch? | |
Posted by: croissantking on 2023-03-06 11:54:39As long as it doesn't put you off the hobby 😆How is it 7.24GB in size?! | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-03-06 11:55:39How is it 7.24GB in size?!It's all the pictures of cheesecake they've hidden in the settings files 😉 | |
| Posted by: croissantking on 2023-03-06 13:58:09 Is there a pin diagram for the Perch slot available online? | |
Posted by: croissantking on 2023-03-06 14:08:06It's all the pictures of cheesecake they've hidden in the settings files 😉Is it wrong that I am loving drawing up the schematic? | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-03-06 14:13:21Is it wrong that I am loving drawing up the schematic?Hey, I just spent the time since dinner measuring the dimensions of every cap in a PSU. I'm not going to criticise. Last week I sat mapping out some of the Q610 logic board (need to do more on that) for a silly project. | |
Posted by: mg.man on 2023-03-06 14:16:01Last week I sat mapping out some of the Q610 logic board ... for a silly project.And I owe you some pics... will try to get over to you in the next few days. | |
Posted by: croissantking on 2023-03-06 14:17:05Hey, I just spent the time since dinner measuring the dimensions of every cap in a PSU. I'm not going to criticise. Last week I sat mapping out some of the Q610 logic board (need to do more on that) for a silly project.I'm not allowing myself to get any new Macs, as the several that I have each have so many secrets and surprises that keep me busy. Each one is a journey. I want to have the honour of being the first person outside of Apple Dev to get built-in USB working on a beige Mac. | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-03-06 14:21:20I'm not allowing myself to get any new Macs, as the several that I have each have so many secrets and surprises that keep me busy. Each one is a journey. I want to have the honour of being the first person outside of Apple Dev to get built-in USB working on a beige Mac.I've been mostly working through my backlog this year, but I did buy a 400MHz iMac logic board this evening. It looks like it could lead to a fun project and was £10. I have a 7100, a beige G3 with dodgy video and a LW600 to sort, some power supplies, then I might do the PB145. | |
Posted by: mg.man on 2023-03-06 14:36:36The Whisper card doesn't have the video capture functionality of the Wings card.Ahh... mine might all be Whispers then... need to check - but think they are all mic & headphone only. | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-03-06 14:37:35Ahh... mine might all be Whispers then... need to check - but think they are all mic & headphone only.Some might have the USB footprint anyway... | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2023-03-06 14:39:46 See here : | |
| Posted by: mg.man on 2023-03-06 14:48:19 Yep... this one was handy :  | |
| Posted by: mg.man on 2023-03-06 14:49:02 The other 4 are still in the Macs (2 x desktop + 2 x MiniTower) | |
Posted by: mg.man on 2023-03-06 14:58:08I want to have the honour of being the first person outside of Apple Dev to get built-in USB working on a beige Mac.👍 FYI : 
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Posted by: croissantking on 2023-03-06 15:07:25👍Shh! I might have a snipe set up on that ;-) | |
Posted by: croissantking on 2023-03-06 15:10:04The other 4 are still in the Macs (2 x desktop + 2 x MiniTower)You can tell at a glance which have the USB footprint, as the audio jacks are shifted over (further away from the modem slot). | |
| Posted by: Paralel on 2023-03-06 15:11:54 Is their any speculation on why they didn't include USB to start with? | |
Posted by: croissantking on 2023-03-06 15:17:54Is their any speculation on why they didn't include USB to start with?I think, it's impossible to say. My guess is that it was a marketing decision. Maybe Apple (or even Steve) made a last minute call to have USB be exclusive to the 'New World'/translucent plastics image. What do you think? | |
| Posted by: Phipli on 2023-03-06 15:29:27 It might have been included on the boards purely for prototyping and development work. If you need a feature for dev work, why not slip it into your current order for 100000 boards if it doesn't impact the cost? | |
Posted by: croissantking on 2023-03-06 15:43:57It might have been included on the boards purely for prototyping and development work. If you need a feature for dev work, why not slip it into your current order for 100000 boards if it doesn't impact the cost?This makes a lot of sense actually. The Beige G3 has a few other prototyping quirks, like the cache slot and PC floppy footprints. Are there any other notable examples of this sort of thing on Old World Macintoshes? | |
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