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Posted by: chiaki on 2020-06-17 08:08:09 I don't think that I have ever seen an LC with that screw in it. Not that I've seen hundreds, but I've seen a lot and I can't remember any of those being screwed shut. even apple doc say "remove screw if one present", are they even new shipped without?
Posted by: Papichulo on 2020-06-17 09:55:15 I had a ebay seller ship me a old powerbook 160. I told him to packit good since its coming from california. He replies and says. "Lol I wrapped it with toilet paper that good enough for ya?" Really weird man. I told him i dont care what u use as long as its secure. He replied and told me to F off. I said ok dude whatever just ship it then. It came a month later wrapped in used toilet paper and a bunch of empty Cheetos bags and he used a sharpie on the computer drawing a smiley face. I know he did it. Either way its gone now. It cost me 12 dollars. WASTE of money
Posted by: Papichulo on 2020-06-17 10:12:37 I don't think that I have ever seen an LC with that screw in it. Not that I've seen hundreds, but I've seen a lot and I can't remember any of those being screwed shut. I had one with a screw in it but i lost the screw
Posted by: elbaroni on 2020-06-17 10:52:38 Well here is the next stupid shipping tricks. I bought a pristine looking 475 mostly for the top case. It got completely destroyed during shipping. The guy just put it in a box about the length and width of the LC and then put some styrofoam on the top and bottom of it, but not enough to fill up the box. The thing is in pieces. View attachment 34854 View attachment 34853 View attachment 34852 Jeeze that’s depressing to see. Amazingly another LaserWriter 4/600 came up in Australia — I’ve bought it and the seller has been very careful with the packing. Fingers crossed!
Posted by: Concorde1993 on 2020-06-17 12:02:44 It came a month later wrapped in used toilet paper... So the computer was doused in feces? :-O
Posted by: MrFahrenheit on 2020-06-17 12:18:19 These are a few examples of the terrible shipments I’ve received just this year. Numerous G5 and Mac Pro machines damaged. I received a PowerMac 6100 literally wrapped in a layer of paper inside a box 4x higher than the Mac. It was flopping around and was destroyed. The Quadra 610 was not packed well and was destroyed. This was a pristine example before the seller shipped it The IIsi at the end was in thst paper bag inside a box, nothing else!
Posted by: Papichulo on 2020-06-17 14:37:52 So the computer was doused in feces? :-O Haha no but it was trashed
Posted by: Papichulo on 2020-06-17 14:39:00 These are a few examples of the terrible shipments I’ve received just this year. Numerous G5 and Mac Pro machines damaged. I received a PowerMac 6100 literally wrapped in a layer of paper inside a box 4x higher than the Mac. It was flopping around and was destroyed. The Quadra 610 was not packed well and was destroyed. This was a pristine example before the seller shipped it The IIsi at the end was in thst paper bag inside a box, nothing else! View attachment 34902 View attachment 34903 View attachment 34904 View attachment 34905 View attachment 34906 View attachment 34907 View attachment 34908 View attachment 34909 Sorry about that postal service strikes again.
Posted by: MrFahrenheit on 2020-06-18 01:06:32 Sorry about that postal service strikes again. No, it's not the postal service causing this. Sellers not properly packaging the items for shipping. Look at a few of those shipments, they have like 10 inches of gap around the item. One of them used about 10 empty Walmart shopping bags as a cushion, and another used a few layers of paper.
Posted by: elbaroni on 2020-06-18 14:57:35 A happy resolution for me, at least. My replacement 4/600 arrived in the mail today. Well packaged (padded bag, bubble wrap, all voids filled) and works like a charm. 600dpi from an SE/30. Unfortunately because of COVID the University doesn’t need hard copy submissions any more, so my major use case is gone. Teaching the kids about pixelart it is!
Posted by: elbaroni on 2020-06-18 15:00:23 Compare, by the way, my own packing on my TAM (first picture, half way through the process) and the scanner I bought earlier this year which miraculously survived.
Posted by: EvieSigma on 2020-06-19 04:43:35 Somehow, despite being shipped by FedEx in a crappy box with only packing peanuts to protect it, my Dell XPS 720 (a 50+ pound behemoth) arrived intact and working. I was genuinely stunned, I thought for sure given how flimsy the box looked that I'd have a box of mangled aluminum.
Posted by: dzog on 2020-06-19 04:54:55 Random anecdote, but I tend to have particularly good luck with poorly-packaged items coming from New York. I think because NY->Bos is a straight-shot with minimal processing.
Posted by: dan.dem on 2020-06-20 21:58:12 I don't think that I have ever seen an LC with that screw in it. Not that I've seen hundreds, but I've seen a lot and I can't remember any of those being screwed shut. Sorry for continuing something off topic: My January 1991 LC came with a screw. But my girlfriend's May 1991 model did not have one. So I think they ditched it around this time, probably depending on production plant. In a public/lab situation it offers some protection from someone stealing memory SIMMs or expansion cards (or even larger innards). On-topic: Packaging. I do not want to blame the shipping company's workers, since they are paid so badly and are forced to work in a very fast pace. Also, many sellers are totally unaware of how strong the packaging really has to be especially for heavy goods, to survive the rough handling you have to expect. I'm mostly buying and selling locally, which is probably easier in Europe since it is more densly populated. This may be an exercise in patience for collectors, which I am not. avoiding shipping and buying heavy goods from
Posted by: MrFahrenheit on 2020-06-20 23:53:29 I have found that if all models that are shipped to me, the most resilient are the LC 1-3 pizza boxes. I have yet to get one damaged and I’ve seen them put into a box with zero protection.
Posted by: rplacd on 2020-06-21 12:39:57 I have found that if all models that are shipped to me, the most resilient are the LC 1-3 pizza boxes. I have yet to get one damaged and I’ve seen them put into a box with zero protection. God, yes... the entire Macintosh Classic/LC/IIsi wave of computers were built like tanks. I'm sure that the effort that Apple spent on getting the LC logic board as compact as possible went into the Classic and IIsi as well, which is what makes them so resilient.
Posted by: Scott Baret on 2020-06-21 13:05:23 Regarding screws: I have a no-CD LC 550 which has its original packing list. 2 screws are mentioned on there, but they're practically the only part missing. I had to put two of my spares on myself since the tabs are broken. Aside from that and some yellowing though, the computer is in immaculate condition, albeit with brittle plastics...it's re-capped and I'm actually going to be selling it this week if anyone's interested...so keep your eye on the trading post!! I've had an LC since it was new and there was no screw in the box. On the topic of LC durability, the Classic, LC, LCII, LCIII, IIsi, SE/30, and SE are the tanks of the group. None of them even have brittle plastic. However, I had an LCIII with the newer case lid completely destroyed in the mail when I bought it in January. I'm still trying to figure out if I can just epoxy the sides of another LC case to it (which has a damaged front because I accidentally left it in front of a heater for too long). Color Classics don't hold up well either. The one I'm grateful for coming in one piece is probably my PowerBook 190. The plastics on it are perfect as of today. Not sure what they'll be like in 5 or 10 years...I'm keeping it in a climate controlled environment (my apartment, but it just seems lower grade than the SE, the LC, the IIGS, basically anything older than it (or even the regular 100 series).
Posted by: mattsoft on 2020-06-21 13:38:43 Regarding screws: I have a no-CD LC 550 which has its original packing list. 2 screws are mentioned on there, but they're practically the only part missing. I had to put two of my spares on myself since the tabs are broken. Aside from that and some yellowing though, the computer is in immaculate condition, albeit with brittle plastics...it's re-capped and I'm actually going to be selling it this week if anyone's interested...so keep your eye on the trading post!! I've had an LC since it was new and there was no screw in the box. On the topic of LC durability, the Classic, LC, LCII, LCIII, IIsi, SE/30, and SE are the tanks of the group. None of them even have brittle plastic. However, I had an LCIII with the newer case lid completely destroyed in the mail when I bought it in January. I'm still trying to figure out if I can just epoxy the sides of another LC case to it (which has a damaged front because I accidentally left it in front of a heater for too long). Color Classics don't hold up well either. The one I'm grateful for coming in one piece is probably my PowerBook 190. The plastics on it are perfect as of today. Not sure what they'll be like in 5 or 10 years...I'm keeping it in a climate controlled environment (my apartment, but it just seems lower grade than the SE, the LC, the IIGS, basically anything older than it (or even the regular 100 series). I have an older style LC III case lid that's going to e-cycle if you want it. it's a little yellow but would retrobrite nicely. the RF shield is gone -- it has rusted away along with the LC III underneath it. I think it was stored in a damp location for years. 🙁 but the top lid looks nice.
Posted by: Cory5412 on 2020-06-28 10:46:19 My apologies for the delay on this. This kind of discussion is against the 68kMLA forum rules and has been for a decade. eBay has a built-in feedback system.
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