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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2010-03-15 19:52:05 8-o Browser cookies? :O |
Posted by: Anonymous Freak on 2010-03-15 19:58:00 Moo.
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Posted by: Unknown_K on 2010-03-15 20:47:39 So if a few people screw up you just punish everyone? It would be easier to talk to people who never read the rules and correct them, if that fails ban them, but then the mods would have to have the balls to make decisions like that.
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Posted by: tyrannis on 2010-03-15 21:03:28 I have to agree with Unknown K; there are really only a few people misusing the quote functionality, and they are obviously just kids who need to be politely corrected.
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Posted by: Quadraman on 2010-03-15 22:42:02 All you're going to accomplish is encourage people to stop quoting entirely by making it too much work. Not only is it too much work to quote manually, it is also going to be difficult to determine who someone is replying to if when they don't include a quote in their post causing everyone to have to click and scroll back through the thread to figure what the hell the last poster is talking about.
It would be like if I suddenly out of the blue made a remark to you in person about a conversation we had two weeks ago that you no longer remember but I make no reference to that conversation to jog your memory when I make the remark. With no point of reference, you're going to stand there and stare at me like I'm speaking to you in a foreign language. In a very long thread with no quoting, it's going to be too much work to try to guess which post is being replied to.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2010-03-16 03:40:08 IBTL
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Posted by: Osgeld on 2010-03-16 06:08:45
Not only is it too much work to quote manually, is 4 motions really that much for you to handle on a computer?
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Posted by: Strimkind on 2010-03-16 06:58:25 Its just a button people! Just let the experiment run its course. I'm sure you will forget that this event even happened a few months from now.
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Posted by: tyrannis on 2010-03-16 07:17:34 If you push "PM", you can copy and paste the quote BBCode from there into a new post reply.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2010-03-16 07:18:54
Its just a button people! Just let the experiment run its course. I'm sure you will forget that this event even happened a few months from now. Yeah just like people forgot about how you can't edit posts.
pshhhh.
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Posted by: luddite on 2010-03-16 11:39:04
All you're going to accomplish is encourage people to stop quoting entirely by making it too much work. I dislike work as much as the next slacker, but so far this change hasn't stopped me.
Not only is it too much work to quote manually...blahblahblah Highlight the text you want to quote and hit the "quote" button. Try it, I dare you!
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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2010-03-16 13:43:21 . . . tick . . . tick . . . tick . . . tick . . . pause . . .
OK, we'vwe had some thoughtful, non-emotional posts by some new and some already parcipitating comrades, so the padlock warning is suspended for a bit yet.
Let's have some creative ideas about how to handle this situation, so that new recruits and less than net-ready comrades can be instructed by the membership on internet etiquette.
This would preferably be accomplished WITHOUT a lot of PMs flying about and overburdening the mod/admin staff.
I'm kickin' around a few notions, but let's hear from the membership . . . no voting, it's NOT a democracy . . . but suggestions and creative solutions are always welcome!
jt :lisa:
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Posted by: Osgeld on 2010-03-16 14:04:36 leave it gone, work builds character, and if its too much for them, well...
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Posted by: aftermac on 2010-03-16 14:21:38 I normally try to avoid bickering and threads that are about to go up in flames, but since Trash80 is welcoming a bit of feedback...
While it may have been a bit petty of the admins to remove the Quote button, I do think it will cut down on the amount of first reply's to a thread that quote the ENTIRE first post. That's just silliness. Of, course that's what you are replying to. It doesn't need to be quoted.
So far, I've quoted a few people just fine from the "Post a reply" page - and even learned that I can just select part of the post and click the quote button. That should more than suffice for my needs and I don't see it as a real inconvenience.
I've always loved this discussion forum, but some of the argueing and immaturity at times has driven me away. If you look at the old forum archive I originally joined in 2002, and I remember when the group started on the old MacAddict forums, but I've only participated from time to time. After a while it just gets to be not fun... and collecting, restoring, and discussing these old machines should be fun!
Sorry, if I got on a bit of a tangent, but I've wanted to get that off my chest for a while now.
If there is anything that I, personally, can do to make this forum better please let me know.
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Posted by: Mars478 on 2010-03-16 14:24:10 Activate the Quote function after a certain amount of posts.
Like if you post 40 times you'll get the Quote button. 🙂
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Posted by: Osgeld on 2010-03-16 14:29:34 that only excludes noobies, which may not be a good thing (just offering a bit of yang to your ying)
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Posted by: Anonymous Freak on 2010-03-16 16:00:29 I will admit to being a little guilty of Quote-button overuse until prodded. I used to be really good about it, but got lazy, and hadn't even noticed I was 'offending' until someone prodded. (Although it would have been appreciated had the prodding been both more obvious, and more polite. I hadn't even realized what the prodding was about until this thread was created.)
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Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2010-03-16 18:47:10 Very cool, comrade! Taking even constructive criticism can be difficult. It seems you've got a bit of ye olde gentlemanly style about you!
Some of the "new recruits" in the MLA would be never be considered noobs ANYWHERE!
Postcount incentives are VERBOTEN! So no go on that suggestion, sorry.
Lets have some creative solutions posted here gang!
Meanwhile, I'll read over the war room discussion about this subject (that I was apparently remiss in ignoring :I ) and mull over my own notions.
Have at it members new/old/young/aged . . . and the silly lamp is still lit, so we can keep this light hearted . . .
. . . the comic relief a few posts back was much needed and quite refreshing! 😱)
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Posted by: macgeek417 on 2010-03-16 19:04:01 inb4lock
Stupid crap like this is why I pretty much never visit here anymore. The admins do something, people don't like it, everyone complains, the admins ignore everyone.
Let's just disable signatures. They've been more or less whittled down to nothing (we've gone from 500 characters, smileys, and links, to 255 characters, no smileys, no links), and we're all being told to use the Wiki anyway, right? How much more are signatures going to be trimmed back? Hey, let's go to 200 characters. That seems reasonable. Or 150, that looks fine. Let's ban BBCode because it's a Wednesday and I have a hangnail!
Maybe someone can make some kind of browser add-on that automatically pastes in a fake signature at the end of every post. This is becoming more and more true...
(BTW, the only reason I'm here right now is because ThePurpleCube's host is down and no-one is in their IRC channel right now. I don't even have the 68kMLA bookmarked anymore.)
You guys should get a slogan... like "The 68kMLA... Where all of the mods and admins are like Reflection!"
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Posted by: Osgeld on 2010-03-16 19:41:19
Stupid crap like this is why I pretty much never visit here anymore. Interesting
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