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Posted by: techfury90 on 2016-12-31 18:21:08
Yep, all SEs have a 50 pin SCSI header on the mobo. I assume the Molex is also in the wiring. It'd actually be cheaper for Apple to leave it in by reducing the number of wiring harnesses to stock.
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Posted by: EvieSigma on 2016-12-31 18:41:04
I know the SCSI is there but I'd have to check inside mine for the Molex...
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Posted by: unity on 2016-12-31 19:13:44
There is no wiring harness for the hard drive, its just a plug on the sweep board.
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Posted by: EvieSigma on 2016-12-31 19:39:55
You'll have to take a picture or something, I don't understand.
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Posted by: unity on 2016-12-31 19:42:18
On the sweep board on an SE there is a connection for the molex cable.
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Posted by: EvieSigma on 2016-12-31 19:44:08
Oh! Yeah, I think I've seen it.
I'll need one of those cables too in addition to a 50 pin cable, then.
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Posted by: Cory5412 on 2016-12-31 19:53:10
To add to what techfury90 said about the scsi2sd, several modems and external/scsi ethernet adapters used ADB for power.
Also, moving this to the compact mac subforum.
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Posted by: techknight on 2017-01-01 05:41:53
What would power it though? Doesn't it need a Molex? Nooo... SCSI2SD can be powered from the Termination. On the plus, you have to solder in a diode. and that diode is right next to the SCSI IC so its just an additional pin up the same ribbon.
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Posted by: IlikeTech on 2017-01-01 06:10:28
So, a SE FDHD with a dead miniscribe included would be fair? It could be yellowed, as long as it is not dented too badly.
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Posted by: just.in.time on 2017-01-02 21:05:46
... There's not really anything useful to put in the PDS slot of an SE.... I have to disagree with that statement. I personally love my Ethernet networking card in my SE FDHD. Allows me to push data directly to it from my MacBook Pro 🙂
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Posted by: Scott Squires on 2017-01-03 02:45:04
If SE ethernet cards were obtainable then I might agree. It's far easier to get a localtalk ethernet bridge.
Does your SE ethernet card work in System 6?
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Posted by: Brett B. on 2017-01-03 09:28:12
They're obtainable, at least two of us in this thread have them 😉
I'm pretty sure the one I have works in System 6, but it's been a couple years since I messed with it. For sure in 7.1.
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Posted by: Compgeke on 2017-01-03 10:20:16
They're obtainable, at least two of us in this thread have them 😉
I'm pretty sure the one I have works in System 6, but it's been a couple years since I messed with it. For sure in 7.1. Make that a three. I also have one but I can't find the drivers\software anywhere (non-corrupted, anyway). If you watch ebay for a while they do pop up now and then fairly cheap.
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Posted by: techknight on 2017-01-03 14:45:05
Make that 4. But the miniscribe which housed them is well... dead.... A low level format fixed all the issues, but guess what happens when you do that.
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Posted by: Brett B. on 2017-01-03 15:35:43
I removed both Miniscribe drives and still have them on the shelf. Occasionally I power them up just for fun. Both still work fine, but suffer from stiction every time... a quick smack to free up the head fixes it, but that is not a realistic option once it's installed into a computer. Both of my SE's now have much larger hard drives installed.
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Posted by: Scott Squires on 2017-01-03 15:39:43
How many of you have them already says nothing about how easy they are to acquire now. There are almost never SE ethernet cards on ebay (especially ones with both pieces intact), whereas there are almost always localtalk ethernet bridges.
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Posted by: Brett B. on 2017-01-03 17:38:43
I know, they are certainly not common these days. I'd venture to guess that it'd be cheaper to find one for an SE than an SE/30, though. I was just fortunate enough to come across one.
Make that a three. I also have one but I can't find the drivers\software anywhere (non-corrupted, anyway). If you watch ebay for a while they do pop up now and then fairly cheap. What make/model is yours? I'll fire mine up and see what I have... who knows, maybe we have the same card.
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Posted by: Compgeke on 2017-01-03 18:32:00
Dove Fastnet SE, AMD version. The DoveEthernetKaat or whatever archive is corrupt so that doesn't work.
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Posted by: Brett B. on 2017-01-03 20:23:46
Hmm, bummer, I just took a look at mine and it appears that I have an Asante card of some sort. I also confirmed that it DOES in fact work in System 6 - it shows up as AppleShare Alternative in the Network control panel. I connected to my G3 and transferred files back and forth. I do not have any specific Asante extensions active, just the standard Apple stuff. I wonder if perhaps just adding those to your system folder will make it work? I can get some specifics as far as exactly which extensions and what versions if you need.
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Posted by: just.in.time on 2017-01-04 22:42:50
No idea if mine works in System 6. Works great with 7.1. With 4MB of RAM, I have zero intentions of ever running System 6 on that Mac again. The lack of Disk Copy 6.3.3 support (and thus the ability to mount disk images to the desktop) is a deal break for me.
I got mine from a member on these forums, if I recal correctly.
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