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Posted by: luRaichu on 2026-02-21 12:27:11 ok but I still fuckin hate AI
Posted by: Phipli on 2026-02-21 12:41:26 ok but I still fuckin hate AI So if someone is paying me to write a report, and I need to find where a reference was in one of ten large documents, is it better to manually search the documents over a day on the budget, or use AI to explain what I'm looking for, and get a page reference in seconds? That's mainly how I use it - a search that doesn't require exact keyword matches. I don't find "hate" a... normal reaction to a bit of software.
Posted by: terrier on 2026-02-21 12:58:55 I won't wade into the AI debate here, but just wanted to point out that this sort of thing (UNIX/POSIX-ish environment as a mac app) has been attempted to varying degrees of success many times over the years. You might want to take a look at https://68kmla.org/bb/threads/macrelix-unix-like-os-as-mac-app.27414/
Posted by: luRaichu on 2026-02-21 13:33:48 So if someone is paying me to write a report, and I need to find where a reference was in one of ten large documents, is it better to manually search the documents over a day on the budget, or use AI to explain what I'm looking for, and get a page reference in seconds? If you get paid hourly it's better to do it by hand If you don't get paid hourly it's still better to do it by hand. Why would you want a spicy autocomplete to make shit up?
Posted by: discatte on 2026-02-21 13:34:41 ok but I still fuckin hate AI me too ❤️
Posted by: Phipli on 2026-02-21 13:38:41 If you get paid hourly it's better to do it by hand If you don't get paid hourly it's still better to do it by hand. Why would you want a spicy autocomplete to make shit up? Ah, I see. Damn those AI terminators making up the page number I'm going to read in 5 seconds anyway. Damn them to hell. 😆
Posted by: luRaichu on 2026-02-21 13:39:21 me too ❤️ 🤝 we're partners in this, comrade!
Posted by: aserker on 2026-02-21 13:58:43 @Xero Thanks for your work and for sharing it on github.
Posted by: Xero on 2026-02-21 14:09:11 If you get paid hourly it's better to do it by hand If you don't get paid hourly it's still better to do it by hand. Why would you want a spicy autocomplete to make shit up? Ah, that old adage. Pay by the hour, spend 4 hours sharpening the axe, vs paid by the job, get rushed jobs. lmfao. AI should just mean you have more time to review the results - but if you're gonna follow the old adage, you could still choose to extend it (artificially? lol) or rush it, regardless. The human part ultimately doesn't change there, the people who do mediocre work, will just do mediocre work faster, regardless of bringing a better axe. I won't wade into the AI debate here, but just wanted to point out that this sort of thing (UNIX/POSIX-ish environment as a mac app) has been attempted to varying degrees of success many times over the years. You might want to take a look at https://68kmla.org/bb/threads/macrelix-unix-like-os-as-mac-app.27414/ This is interesting, I'd wondered if something like this already existed. The reason I started with ssheven as a basis was because it had modern ssh capabilities baked in from the start, and I didn't want to have to completely re-invent the wheel there. The telnet support I just added was able to re-use a lot of that implementation. It seems this macrelix project is quite a bit older, but definitely curious to see the approach they took. I've mostly been trying to add the things I want to see, from my own unix/linux experiences. Ultimately it won't ever be real unix (we got A/UX if we truly want that). I'm also trying to avoid going full-force and ending up with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner-platform_effect which is also a thing...I think I'm targeting MVP type stuff for now, polish what it has, without going too far into the weeds.
Posted by: luRaichu on 2026-02-21 14:14:30 @Xero Thanks for your work and for sharing it on github. You forgot to thank Claude!
Posted by: GRudolf94 on 2026-02-21 14:58:58 ...make shit up? You mean, like you do?
Posted by: luRaichu on 2026-02-21 16:53:05 You mean, like you do? At least I'm honest!! You could never know with AI slop. Its job is to bring you polished turds
Posted by: GRudolf94 on 2026-02-21 17:20:57 Preface: I don't expect you to learn anything from the following comment - someday someone will knock you a few pegs down, but it won't be an internet comment on a forum. Knowing when to shut up is obviously not a skill you possess yet, and if you're lucky enough to maybe someday grow up and mature you might even learn it without getting hurt too badly! At least I'm honest!! You could never know with AI slop. Its job is to bring you polished turds No, you're a grade B troll - you're not funny or original, most of your posts are inane nonsense at best, and downright malicious at worst. You're (IMHO) one of the members that does the most to degrade the signal-to-noise ratio on this forum, and worse still - you do it consciously. Which is worse than any LLM could do, since they can't really think or choose. Takes some gall to come on here and complain about that when most of your input is of no benefit to this community. As for """AI""", it's just a tool. Like any other, it can be misused, or it can make some tasks easier. This is not the place to discuss that anyhow.
Posted by: luRaichu on 2026-02-21 17:54:44 No, you're a grade B troll - you're not funny or original, most of your posts are inane nonsense at best, and downright malicious at worst. You're (IMHO) one of the members that does the most to degrade the signal-to-noise ratio on this forum, and worse still - you do it consciously. Which is worse than any LLM could do, since they can't really think or choose. Takes some gall to come on here and complain about that when most of your input is of no benefit to this community. I'm a high school senior cut me some slack
Posted by: GRudolf94 on 2026-02-21 18:01:10 I'm a high school senior cut me some slack That can be inferred. Take the advice, sternly-worded as it may be, and think some more before posting. You can do better. You have nothing to gain by trying to be edgy, especially so in a technical forum. Quite the opposite really, it's cringy and doesn't foster any goodwill towards you. Aim at doing more productive things, this is very terminally online behavior.
Posted by: luRaichu on 2026-02-21 18:05:31 Okay great thanks but AI is not for writing software. It is not
Posted by: aserker on 2026-02-21 18:16:33 Okay great thanks but AI is not for writing software. It is not Why don’t you comment on threads up to your interest ? Really I’m saddened you diverted this thread from it’s original topic. Can’t we just focus on mac related things instead of your dislike for AI ? If you really wish to make a point about AI, then create a thread about it.
Posted by: luRaichu on 2026-02-21 18:26:33 Because there's not much point in writing software if you can't understand what it's actually doing. This is AI slop. Maybe it works, but it could work far, far better
Posted by: aserker on 2026-02-21 18:29:01 Because there's not much point in writing software if you can't understand what it's actually doing. This is AI slop. Maybe it works, but it could work far, far better Okay. I think I got it as everyone else. But you don’t understand you are making other users miserable by diverting threads. Really please create a separate thread about AI and why we should not use it.
Posted by: GRudolf94 on 2026-02-21 18:54:40 Because there's not much point in writing software if you can't understand what it's actually doing. This is AI slop. Maybe it works, but it could work far, far better There is no correlation between knowing or not how to write software and understanding or not what the AI is doing. Like I said before, it is a force multiplier, and force can have a positive or negative magnitude. You, OTOH, have shown nothing but jumping on a bandwagon you don't really understand to pretend you're cool, and crapping all over something someone who's just joined has shared. For the love of all that is holy, log off and go touch grass. Shoo. Go.
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