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| Macintosh SE sudden death: burned chip on logic board + suspected analog board capacitor leakage |
Posted by: victor.muc on 2026-02-09 14:01:50
Kind of OT, but what system versions do you have? If both of your machines are running System 6 or less, there's no way for you to host files on either unless you have dedicated server software. System 7 and up had built-in file hosting. Both machines are running System 7, the Macintosh SE as well as the PowerBook I was trying to connect to. So file sharing should have been available on both sides. |
Posted by: Phipli on 2026-02-09 14:03:36
Thanks, I’ll try that!
I’m admittedly cautious around high voltage hardware, so I’ll take things step by step. The logic board measurements are no problem, but for anything involving the analog board or PSU, I’ll proceed carefully or hand it off to someone more experienced.
If the PSU fuse has indeed blown as suggested, that would explain the symptoms quite well, and I’ll have it checked and replaced once the underlying fault on the logic board has been addressed. Generally if I'm going near the PSU or analogue board, I don't rush. I unplug the computer, toggle the power switch and then leave it for at least a day. But yes, take care, they can pack a punch. Also, take super care around the tube - they're very easy to break if you knock the neck board. Especially as you pull out cables from the logic board. There is always something else to be fixing 😆 |
Posted by: victor.muc on 2026-02-09 14:12:44
Generally if I'm going near the PSU or analogue board, I don't rush. I unplug the computer, toggle the power switch and then leave it for at least a day. But yes, take care, they can pack a punch. Also, take super care around the tube - they're very easy to break if you knock the neck oard. Especially as you pull out cables from the logic board. There is always something else to be fixing 😆 I’m doing the same. When I fixed the floppy drive, the machine was completely unplugged for about a month while I was waiting for replacement gears, which gave me some peace of mind. It’s now been powered off for more than two weeks, so I know it should be safe, but I’m still a bit nervous 🤠
What makes me most uneasy is having to remove the anode cap when going further with the analog board and PSU.
And the glass tube already gave me a few heartrate spikes while unplugging the logic board power connector since that thing sits really tight. |
Posted by: Phipli on 2026-02-09 14:33:16
And the glass tube already gave me a few heartrate spikes while unplugging the logic board power connector since that thing sits really tight. Just make sure you press the latch, and then rock it from side to side until it works loose, rather than pulling on it. Which I'm sure you've figured but worth saying just in case. |
Posted by: victor.muc on 2026-02-09 14:44:46
Just make sure you press the latch, and then rock it from side to side until it works loose, rather than pulling on it. Which I'm sure you've figured but worth saying just in case. Yes, the first time I disassembled it, I spent a good 30 minutes fighting with that connector before realizing it actually has a latch 😅 |
Posted by: victor.muc on 2026-06-28 08:19:46 Update: I finally found the time to fix it.
I removed the old burned chip and installed a socket in its place. Then I simply fitted the replacement chip I got from AliExpress. It works like a charm!
So in the end it really was just that one chip that was taking down the whole machine. The PSU and analog board are fine. |
Posted by: victor.muc on 2026-06-28 08:24:00 Interesting little detail: two of my four RAM modules have a mix of chips marked “Germany” and “W. Germany“. The latter standing for West Germany, from before German reunification. The other two modules are from Japan. |
Posted by: Phipli on 2026-06-28 08:28:49
Update: I finally found the time to fix it.
I removed the old burned chip and installed a socket in its place. Then I simply fitted the replacement chip I got from AliExpress. It works like a charm!
So in the end it really was just that one chip that was taking down the whole machine. The PSU and analog board are fine. Congratulations 🙂
Be interesting to know if the serial still works, but I don't know if you want to test it or not after the previous events! |
Posted by: Phipli on 2026-06-28 08:30:12
Interesting little detail: two of my four RAM modules have a mix of chips marked “Germany” and “W. Germany“. The latter standing for West Germany, from before German reunification. The other two modules are from Japan. Even here in the UK you find this like this (from my SE) :
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Posted by: victor.muc on 2026-06-28 08:31:55
Congratulations 🙂
Be interesting to know if the serial still works, but I don't know if you want to test it or not after the previous events! Thanks! 🙂
I haven’t had the courage to test it yet, but I’ll definitely do it and report back! |
Posted by: victor.muc on 2026-06-28 08:34:42
Even here in the UK you find this like this (from my SE) :
View attachment 100638 Wow, interesting! I didn’t know Germany was such a big supplier back then. I pulled my PRAM battery when I fixed the board, and mine had the exact same marking. 😆 |
Posted by: Phipli on 2026-06-28 08:42:50
Wow, interesting! I didn’t know Germany was such a big supplier back then. I pulled my PRAM battery when I fixed the board, and mine had the exact same marking. 😆 Oh, West Germany and East Germany had strong manufacturing sectors each side of the wall.
East Germany was the source of some of the most advanced silicon within the Soviet block. Also good microphones.
West Germany had even more manufacturing as you'd expect, being the home of Siemens, Bosch, BASF, AEG and ThyssenKrupp, as well as VARTA... To say nothing of VAG and BMW etc. |
Posted by: victor.muc on 2026-06-28 08:53:06
Oh, West Germany and East Germany had strong manufacturing sectors each side of the wall.
East Germany was the source of some of the most advanced silicon within the Soviet block. Also good microphones.
West Germany had even more manufacturing as you'd expect, being the home of Siemens, Bosch, BASF, AEG and ThyssenKrupp, as well as VARTA... To say nothing of VAG and BMW etc. Very interesting! I may have to revisit some history lessons about my country 😄 |
Posted by: Phipli on 2026-06-28 08:59:15
Very interesting! I may have to revisit some history lessons about my country 😄 Read up on VillageTronic and Formac as well 😉 |
Posted by: victor.muc on 2026-06-28 09:03:02
Read up on VillageTronic and Formac as well 😉 I will! 😉 |
Posted by: nathall on 2026-06-29 22:47:54 Unrelated to the technical side of this conversation, but this makes me recall being in class as a US kid in 1989 and they wheeled in a TV on a large apparatus as they did in those days so we could watch the wall start to come down. |
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