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Have se/30 on internet—now what?
Posted by: mikes-macs on 2024-05-22 20:28:54
Most of us used dialup to get a Mac like that on the internet in 1992, using a land line with whatever modem was available. Hopefully nobody needed the phone to make a call and the ISP number wasn't giving the proverbial busy signal. So I can see the appeal to trying an SE/30 with broadband either via MacIP over LocalTalk or Ethernet. Having it set the date and time via time.apple.com is usually my first step using Network Time Control Panel just to make sure... There really isn't much to do on today's internet with a Mac like that although you can host and FTP server which can be useful, or use Timbuktu to remote in with your iPhone.
Posted by: ArmorAlley on 2024-05-22 22:45:28
Hello! With a bluescsi v2 I was able to connect my se/39 to the internet. I launched a browser and found that it was painfully slow, so surfing the web is probs my not going to be great with this uncelebrated machine. I was wondering if someone might suggest some BBS option for me or some other fun ways to use the internet with my SE/30? Thank you!
NICs are best use for the PDS slot in almost all Macs that have no other expansion slots. You can now access a file server easily via EtherTalk.
Make a LAN, connect a fast G4 to it and use that to download software from the Macintosh Garden for the SE/30.

I made up an Excel document [1] some years ago listing what network games can be played on what Macs. If you can get more SE/30s (or other macs) on your LAN, Spectre, NetTrek, Pararena and maybe even Bolo can be played as LAN games.

Open question: is it possible to play games via a AppleTalk online? If it is, then this may also be an option for you.

[1] https://macintoshgarden.org/games/macintosh-network-games-excel-file
Posted by: Unknown_K on 2024-05-23 00:53:55
68k macs kind of sucked on the internet 15+ years ago and things have not been getting better. I have ethernet on my SE/30 mostly for file transfers between machines and servers plus I used to do some FTP stuff. Timbuktu is another thing to try, controlling another computer via software is cool (forget which version I have but it came with the manuals).

Making a disk image on a vintage machine and dumping it on the server for archiving is fun.
Posted by: mousehouse on 2024-05-23 12:25:48
If you're networking your Mac check out the http://MacIP.net project. It's an image that you put on a RPi that gives you file share, time sync, a web proxy that your crappy old browser understands, etc.
Posted by: mloret on 2024-05-26 14:15:49
Most of us used dialup to get a Mac like that on the internet in 1992, using a land line with whatever modem was available. Hopefully nobody needed the phone to make a call and the ISP number wasn't giving the proverbial busy signal. So I can see the appeal to trying an SE/30 with broadband either via MacIP over LocalTalk or Ethernet. Having it set the date and time via time.apple.com is usually my first step using Network Time Control Panel just to make sure... There really isn't much to do on today's internet with a Mac like that although you can host and FTP server which can be useful, or use Timbuktu to remote in with your iPhone.
Hi there! Thank you for your suggestions. I did get the Network Tome panel and that seems to work fine.

Here’s a question. I am using Open Media Vault on a Raspberry Pi 4 for a Network Attached Server that I am sharing between my modern Windows and Macs machines as well as my Raspeberry Pi’s. It has an IP address which is how the other machines access it on my LAN. My SE/30 is also on my LAN now. Question—any idea how I would get NAS shares to mount on the SE/30? Is that even possible?
Posted by: mloret on 2024-05-26 14:17:21
Gopher.
Thank you for the suggestion. I downloaded TurboGopher on my SE/30 and it fails to resolve the target which is Minnesota URL. Any idea what I’m doing wrong?
Posted by: Mk.558 on 2024-05-26 20:16:43
Use Mosaic 2.0.1 with this.
Posted by: slipperygrey on 2024-05-26 21:48:10
Hi there! Thank you for your suggestions. I did get the Network Tome panel and that seems to work fine.

Here’s a question. I am using Open Media Vault on a Raspberry Pi 4 for a Network Attached Server that I am sharing between my modern Windows and Macs machines as well as my Raspeberry Pi’s. It has an IP address which is how the other machines access it on my LAN. My SE/30 is also on my LAN now. Question—any idea how I would get NAS shares to mount on the SE/30? Is that even possible?
If your NAS is running Netatalk 2, then yes. 🙂

Have a look at https://hub.docker.com/r/netatalk/netatalk2
Posted by: Burgertrench on 2024-05-26 23:59:38
Hello! With a bluescsi v2 I was able to connect my se/39 to the internet. I launched a browser and found that it was painfully slow, so surfing the web is probs my not going to be great with this uncelebrated machine. I was wondering if someone might suggest some BBS option for me or some other fun ways to use the internet with my SE/30? Thank you!
You can browse and download software directly from Macintosh Garden. Check out Frogfind which is a sort of search and proxy for modern sites, built by Sean from Action Retro. I also enjoy being able to drop files on to a newer Mac or my Synology NAS, and grab it over the network using the SE/30 - by far the easiest method unless you're copying hundreds of MB.
Posted by: mloret on 2024-05-27 02:27:21
If your NAS is running Netatalk 2, then yes. 🙂

Have a look at https://hub.docker.com/r/netatalk/netatalk2
It doesn’t look like this is a possibility with Open Media Vault. Oh well.
Posted by: mloret on 2024-05-27 02:29:29
Right now my priority is to get gopher to work. So far Turbogopher has been a fail.
Posted by: croissantking on 2024-05-27 03:29:09
Connect to the 68kmla IRC server and chat with us. I do this with vintage Macs, it’s fun.
Posted by: mloret on 2024-05-27 06:04:42
Connect to the 68kmla IRC server and chat with us. I do this with vintage Macs, it’s fun.
This is a wonderful idea! How would I do this? Amateur and relative noob here…
Posted by: croissantking on 2024-05-27 06:07:29
This is a wonderful idea! How would I do this? Amateur and relative noob here…
Download and install a vintage IRC client, such as Ircle 3.0.4. Set up your username and nick. Then add a connection to irc.68kmla.org, and once connected, type /join #68kmla.
Posted by: davewongillies on 2024-05-27 19:45:54
I downloaded TurboGopher on my SE/30 and it fails to resolve the target which is Minnesota URL. Any idea what I’m doing wrong?
What's the actual URL? Its possible that it doesn't exist anymore. Try gopher://gopher.system7today.com:70/, that actually exists
Posted by: mloret on 2024-06-03 17:58:08
Download and install a vintage IRC client, such as Ircle 3.0.4. Set up your username and nick. Then add a connection to irc.68kmla.org, and once connected, type /join #68kmla.
Good to see you on IRC! Thank you for the suggestion and instructions 🙂
Posted by: mloret on 2024-06-03 18:02:52
What's the actual URL? Its possible that it doesn't exist anymore. Try gopher://gopher.system7today.com:70/, that actually exists
I got the same message. Is port 70 right?
Posted by: davewongillies on 2024-06-03 18:17:57
I got the same message. Is port 70 right?
Yes it is, 70 is the TCP port that gopher runs on. I can also connect to that gopher URL
Posted by: mloret on 2024-06-04 01:40:26
Hmm not sure what I’m doing wrong. Maybe I got the irl wrong? What app are you using? I’m trying with turbogopher…
Posted by: Byte Knight on 2024-06-04 07:01:25
Sorry I'm late to this thread. I'm a little biased, but Captain's Quarters II BBS has some good stuff for your networked SE/30 - browse the forums, play over 300 door games, download software from the 10,000+ file collection, read Mac-based text files, get the latest news/sports headlines (updated hourly), and even get your local weather forecast!
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