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| Mac SE/30 with regular Mac SE front??? | |
| Posted by: rollmastr on 2022-08-13 04:52:35 I have not tried if such an old system version would boot on an SE/30, it might though. Also, an SE/30 will run with 4MB of RAM installed. Definitely odd. I would not risk 290€ to get a regluar SE. | |
| Posted by: Berenod on 2022-08-14 05:02:45 Prepared my DB25 BlueSCSI with system 6.08 on it and Tattletech 2.17. Seems the higher versions of Tattletech need at least system 7 or higher to run... Tested it on one of my SE's, boots perfectly ( while holding cmd/ctrl/shift/del as there is a working haddrive internally). One thing I noticed, when the internal harddisk is connected but not working properly (have one of those as well), I can't get the SE to boot from the DB25 port, only way is to take of the bucket and disconnect the internal drive. From what I've seen so far my guts tell me I'm going to see what's below in the picture 🙂  | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2022-08-14 05:12:02Prepared my DB25 BlueSCSI with system 6.08 on it and Tattletech 2.17.Don't forget to consider that it might be an SE with an 030 upgrade card. That machine ID at the top is going to be the one to look for (just in case 🙂 ) | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2022-08-14 05:15:15Seems the higher versions of Tattletech need at least system 7 or higher to run...I used to keep TattleTale about for older machines, interesting that older versions of TattleTech work on Sys 6. TattleTale - Macintosh GardenTattleTale provides very complete information about your computer and its system related software. The information can be viewed on screen by category, printed, written to a standard text file, or output in database readable format.
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Posted by: Berenod on 2022-08-14 05:45:04Don't forget to consider that it might be an SE with an 030 upgrade card. That machine ID at the top is going to be the one to look for (just in case 🙂 )A PDS upgrade card would indeed be possible, but that wouldn't make it an SE/30! Although a working 03 or 040 "booster" card also seems to be becoming a very rare an valuable piece of hardware! | |
Posted by: Berenod on 2022-08-14 05:47:56I used to keep TattleTale about for older machines, interesting that older versions of TattleTech work on Sys 6.Didn't know of TattleTale! Anyways, TattleTech 2.17 is confirmed working on a 4MB Mac SE running system 6.08... Wich is what SE's should run IMO, plenty people sticking 7.x on, which is a bit of a struggle for a 68000 running at 8Mhz, even when maxed out at 4MB... | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2022-08-14 06:02:30Didn't know of TattleTale!Maxed out at 4MB?  | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2022-08-14 06:05:18but that wouldn't make it an SE/30!Exactly what I meant 🙂 I don't think there was any SE 040 accelerators sadly, I've not seen one although would be happy to have a 25MHz 040 in my SE 🙂 | |
| Posted by: LaPorta on 2022-08-14 06:07:25 I’d be happy to have any increase in speed on mine…as long as it didn’t cost $200! | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2022-08-14 06:14:59I’d be happy to have any increase in speed on mine…as long as it didn’t cost $200!What OS are you running? Running 6.0.8 instead of 7.x is like an accelerator! Nice and cheap upgrade. Hopefully progress will be made with reverse engineering the Brainstorm Accelerator (@maceffects). There was excellent work done decapping and imaging the replacement BBU, but last I heard the logic inside it hadn't been extracted from the images. Its likely to be one if the cheapest upgrades possible to make for an SE. A 16MHz 68000 in the PDS is the easy bit, some kind of Custom logic like an FPGA and an adapter into the BBU socket is the difficult and expensive / complex bit. I keep hoping 🙂 | |
| Posted by: LaPorta on 2022-08-14 06:19:15 Yes on all counts. I dual boot 6.0.8 and 7.1. 7.1 is terribly slow, so I’d like it to be a bit more usable under that. | |
Posted by: Berenod on 2022-08-14 06:42:55Maxed out at 4MB?Accelerator boards or such wizardy doesn't count 😎 | |
| Posted by: Berenod on 2022-08-14 06:57:15 Is there any possibility to use a Mobius Speedster LC in an SE? Can get one relatively cheap, but I seem to remember that the PDS bus of an LC is different to the PDS bus of an SE, eventhough it is exactly the same connector...LC uses a 68020 on the mainboard instead of the 68000 of the SE Or was it only the orientation of the connector/upgrade board which was different The Mobius is a 040 anyway, weirdly I seem to recall they had a version for the SE as well (might only have been a 030 in that case)...    | |
| Posted by: Berenod on 2022-08-14 07:00:33 In the meantime doing some PPC work in the mancave 🙂   | |
| Posted by: LaPorta on 2022-08-14 07:01:56 SE PDS is basically incompatible with everything else. | |
Posted by: Phipli on 2022-08-14 07:42:22Is there any possibility to use a Mobius Speedster LC in an SE?Like LaPorta says, don't try this, they're electrically incompatible. | |
Posted by: Berenod on 2022-08-14 08:09:02SE PDS is basically incompatible with everything else. Like LaPorta says, don't try this, they're electrically incompatible. Crap, gotta find an LC now 😏 | |
Posted by: mg.man on 2022-08-14 09:10:21gotta find an LC nowI can help you with that... 🤣 | |
| Posted by: Berenod on 2022-08-14 12:12:49 Now I'm pretty much certainly not going to the seller of the shady SE/30... Another /30 popped up, basically round my corner. Put a bid of 150€, under condition that it can be booted before purchase, and the seller accepted!    | |
| Posted by: joshc on 2022-08-14 12:59:42 Nice, that looks a bit more like it. Hope you can get it going. | |
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