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Beta’s obligatory thread
Posted by: Hopfenholz on 2022-11-03 00:20:41
Nice! Is that a custom install of MacOS 9? I thought these were OS X only out of the box
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-11-03 00:48:49
Nice! Is that a custom install of MacOS 9? I thought these were OS X only out of the box
No, it's just a default install. The 2002 models, like this one, are old enough to actually boot it natively. They also use non-extreme airport cards, which I can't find locally, and SDRAM
Posted by: tecneeq on 2022-11-03 01:06:17
Nice stuff you have there, i like the SE/30. I plan to retrobright mine, as soon as i have all the materials.
Posted by: Aeroform on 2022-11-03 01:21:03
After a few days of messing around with my SCSI2SD, and cannibalizing some ram from the 486 build that I am giving up on, I have a nicely set up SE/30 now. I'm probably going to be using the system as a writing device at some point in the near future.View attachment 42585

What extension are you using to get the wallpaper on there? I’ve tried most of them but neither work on my SE/30 (I’m however running 7.5.5)
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-11-03 09:06:39
What extension are you using to get the wallpaper on there? I’ve tried most of them but neither work on my SE/30 (I’m however running 7.5.5)
It’s just Decor. It might be the version on the garden, or the version that came with the Marathon collection, I can’t remember.


Nice stuff you have there, i like the SE/30. I plan to retrobright mine, as soon as i have all the materials.
I did a pseudo retrobright using the sun for mine.
Posted by: Aeroform on 2022-11-03 10:19:44
It’s just Decor.

Ok thanks, that’s a bummer as it refuses to work for me on the SE/30 7.5.5 combo for some reason.
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-11-03 22:30:58
Ok thanks, that’s a bummer as it refuses to work for me on the SE/30 7.5.5 combo for some reason.
It should work, maybe there's just something missing from the installation?
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-11-16 18:08:04
Well, I finally got myself a literally beige whale. Only downside is that it seems to not want to boot off of the CD Drive, or my ZULUSCSI in order to install OS7. I do know it works, though, as it booted to the now-wiped HDD.
Posted by: tecneeq on 2022-11-16 22:22:04
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It's a beauty. 😀
Do they boot like other Macs? If so you could do the old HDD switcheroo.
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-11-16 22:54:18
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It's a beauty. 😀
Do they boot like other Macs? If so you could do the old HDD switcheroo.
I believe they do, but I'm iffy due to it using IDE for a HDD and SCSI for CDs, and me not having any spare IDE drives with OS7 on them.
Posted by: Hopfenholz on 2022-11-16 23:15:37
That maybe many things but a beauty it is not! 🙂 Can just imagine Jobs cancelling them with gusto when he came back. Or did clones end before that?

They can be very useful macs though. My dad kept a UMAX desktop going for years as it was the only mac in the whole studio that could talk SCSI, USB, FireWire and had a floppy drive.
Posted by: tecneeq on 2022-11-16 23:17:52
IDE drives might be a blessing, you can cheaply turn this to solid state. CF cards are basically IDE disks, they just need a passive adapter to get hooked up, something like that:
www.ebay.de

IDE ATA 40pin zu Compact Flash CF Adapter Converter w/ PCI Bracket Rückseite GE | eBay

Entdecken Sie IDE ATA 40pin zu Compact Flash CF Adapter Converter w/ PCI Bracket Rückseite GE in der großen Auswahl bei eBay. Kostenlose Lieferung für viele Artikel!
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Best to order different models, they are cheap enough.
Small CF cards up to 4GB work best.

Booting from external SCSI Zip might work.

I have a Performa 630 with a Performa 6200 board in it, PPC 603@75MHz, i think these use IDE as well. If i installed say MacOS 8.5, i could make an image file that you can write with dd using any old Linux/Unix to write to CF card. Give me a note if you want to try this.
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-11-17 00:01:17
That maybe many things but a beauty it is not! 🙂 Can just imagine Jobs cancelling them with gusto when he came back. Or did clones end before that?

They can be very useful macs though. My dad kept a UMAX desktop going for years as it was the only mac in the whole studio that could talk SCSI, USB, FireWire and had a floppy drive.
I take it that there isn't much issue with finding PCI cards that work with this?
IDE drives might be a blessing, you can cheaply turn this to solid state. CF cards are basically IDE disks, they just need a passive adapter to get hooked up, something like that:
www.ebay.de

IDE ATA 40pin zu Compact Flash CF Adapter Converter w/ PCI Bracket Rückseite GE | eBay

Entdecken Sie IDE ATA 40pin zu Compact Flash CF Adapter Converter w/ PCI Bracket Rückseite GE in der großen Auswahl bei eBay. Kostenlose Lieferung für viele Artikel!
www.ebay.de
Best to order different models, they are cheap enough.
Small CF cards up to 4GB work best.

Booting from external SCSI Zip might work.

I have a Performa 630 with a Performa 6200 board in it, PPC 603@75MHz, i think these use IDE as well. If i installed say MacOS 8.5, i could make an image file that you can write with dd using any old Linux/Unix to write to CF card. Give me a note if you want to try this.
No worries. I do have SD card based solutions, I just as I said, don't have any spare OS7 or even 8 sitting around. And I'm at a loss as to why my ZULUSCSI doesn't seem to boot the garden-available 7.6.1 CD for this model.
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-11-28 23:53:52
After finding an Apple 600i SCSI CD drive to replace the effectively dead drive that shipped with the computer, and a bit of time wasting, I've finally got my Clone in a basically perfect state. Sure, I'm not maxing it out with RAM that's way too damn expensive, and I'm not even running 8 regularly, but I can officially say I'm happy.826BE87F-1909-4DAB-BED4-213EA51CD48D.jpg
Posted by: tecneeq on 2022-11-29 07:46:21
Looks nice indeed. Great monitor as well. I personally would update to 8.1, it doesn't cost much more resources.
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-11-29 19:49:03
Looks nice indeed. Great monitor as well. I personally would update to 8.1, it doesn't cost much more resources.
I tried to do so once, but I refused to boot afterwards. I'm partially fine with 7.6.1, at least
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-12-09 23:52:49
Not a computer, but an almost complete in box copy of OSX 10.4.3. It's got everything but the apple stickers.

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Posted by: tecneeq on 2022-12-10 02:51:18
Sweet. I'm not into NuApple, but this box looks slick. 😌
Posted by: BetaC on 2022-12-10 09:37:36
Sweet. I'm not into NuApple, but this box looks slick. 😌
As much as it's new apple, the OS is almost old enough to vote in the US.
Posted by: CC_333 on 2022-12-10 14:36:43
As much as it's new apple, the OS is almost old enough to vote in the US.
I would say that everything before macOS 10.14 could be considered "old" at this point, with 10.14 and 10.15 being in a sort of transitional phase. macOS 11 and up, while still somewhat similar in basic form, look and feel quite different than anything that came before it, and this is only the beginning of the changeover, relatively speaking.

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