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Best way to transfer data to Mac SE

Posted by: cheesestraws on 2021-12-11 06:35:43

You know nothing about me, and how can you infer anything about me, other than I’m looking for a way to copy files to an SE. Some people!

You misread me-I meant the poster of the G5-as-gateway machine, not you. I would not refer to you as “that poster” in your own thread!

Posted by: mike_method on 2021-12-11 07:19:07

You misread me-I meant the poster of the G5-as-gateway machine, not you. I would not refer to you as “that poster” in your own thread!

In that case I’ll let you off 😉

Posted by: mg.man on 2021-12-11 08:30:17

have an M1 Mac, intel Mini & MBP

The M1 is probably out - too new - but it could be possible to use the USB Zip with the latter two. The trouble is, you'd probably have to run a pretty old version of OS X to be able to write to the USB Zip - not sure when support was dropped? Older OS X may also mean less secure browser, etc. If you're thinking about the FloppyEMU, that might be the better path, since you should be able to mount the microSD (and move stuff onto it) from any of your newer Macs...

Posted by: mike_method on 2021-12-11 09:14:22

Usb zip works with my intel Macs but yet to try with the M1. I’ve been writing data to Zip disks no problem but I’m pretty sure they were formatted to fat to be compatible with my MPC2000xl.

I think you’re right, I may have to opt for the floppy emu but I’ll give the zip option a good go first.

Posted by: mg.man on 2021-12-11 09:24:12

I’m pretty sure they were formatted to fat to be compatible with my MPC2000xl.

More than likely. I think you should be able to format them as HFS - depending on the System version you plan for your SE - probably 7.0x or 7.1x, given you only have 4Mb RAM - you'll want Standard not Enhanced. Might be best to format on the SE / SCSI Zip and see if you can mount / write on your Intel Mac(s).

Sounds like you're pretty much there....

Posted by: mike_method on 2021-12-11 09:32:47

Hope so.

More than likely. I think you should be able to format them as HFS - depending on the System version you plan for your SE - probably 7.0x or 7.1x, given you only have 4Mb RAM - you'll want Standard not Enhanced. Might be best to format on the SE / SCSI Zip and see if you can mount / write on your Intel Mac(s).

Sounds like you're pretty much there....

Hope so. I was planning on using system 6 on the se but it depends on the music software compatibility - ideally I want to run an early version of Cubase, if I can find one. No probs if I have to install an earlier version of OS X on my intel Mac. I can do this through a virtual machine. Must confess, I’m quite looking forward to trying to get this all to work and if it fails at least I’ve got the floppy emu as fallback.

Posted by: LaPorta on 2021-12-11 09:59:31

Ok, let me see if I can compile all of this. This might be easy:

1. Get FloppyEmu
2. Buy it with the pre-installed disk images in it.
3. Stick the SD card from the floppy emu into one of your more modern macs (any of them that has an SD card reader)
4. Copy compatible disk images to the SD card.
5. Put them back into the Floppy Emu and use them.

For even more long term:

1. Also buy v5 SCSI2SD. Configure on modern Mac and install in SE.
2. Use FloppyEmu to start the computer. Use a disk image that has a version of Lido or HD SC Setup patched to format the SCSI2SD.
3. Use a system image on the Floppy Emu to start the machine and copy the System to the SCSI2SD.

Hopefully that will work well.

Posted by: mike_method on 2021-12-11 11:01:22

Ok, let me see if I can compile all of this. This might be easy:

1. Get FloppyEmu
2. Buy it with the pre-installed disk images in it.
3. Stick the SD card from the floppy emu into one of your more modern macs (any of them that has an SD card reader)
4. Copy compatible disk images to the SD card.
5. Put them back into the Floppy Emu and use them.

For even more long term:

1. Also buy v5 SCSI2SD. Configure on modern Mac and install in SE.
2. Use FloppyEmu to start the computer. Use a disk image that has a version of Lido or HD SC Setup patched to format the SCSI2SD.
3. Use a system image on the Floppy Emu to start the machine and copy the System to the SCSI2SD.

Hopefully that will work well.

Thanks I already know that a floppy emu and / or scsi2sd solution will work (I already use the latter in my S3000XL rack sampler).

Posted by: mg.man on 2021-12-11 11:17:47

ideally I want to run an early version of Cubase

Hmm... how 'early'?

Posted by: mike_method on 2021-12-11 12:45:06

Hmm... how 'early'?

Posted by: mike_method on 2021-12-11 12:47:49

An early version that works well on an se with 4mb and system 6. That’s as specific I can get. I use 2.1 on a 4mb Atari STe that works very well fwiw, but expect I may need sn earlier version for the se.

Posted by: mg.man on 2021-12-11 13:17:12

I use 2.1 on a 4mb Atari STe ... but expect I may need sn earlier version

Probably. I have a boxed Cubase that runs on System 7, but it's version 3.5, so probably needs more RAM. I also have Cubase VST 2.0 and Timebandit... but very much doubt a SE could cope with either... 🤔

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2021-12-11 15:54:06

I'm wondering if that type of software ever had support for the 68000 at all? What CPU is in your STe?

Posted by: mike_method on 2021-12-12 00:08:36

Atari STE is a 68k @ 8mhz. Cubase was released for the ST, Mac and PC fwiw.

Posted by: appleg33k85 on 2021-12-12 15:39:21

An early version that works well on an se with 4mb and system 6. That’s as specific I can get. I use 2.1 on a 4mb Atari STe that works very well fwiw, but expect I may need sn earlier version for the se.

I was able to get Cubase v1.0 to work on my SE, but couldn't get 2.5.1 to work though I didn't fiddle around with it too much. I was however able to get 2.5.1 to work on my SE/30 but that is running 7.5.3 so perhaps it might work on the SE.

Posted by: ymk on 2021-12-12 22:41:50

I sell the MacSD. It can mount HDD, floppy and CDROM images.

It ships with a System 6 application that can transfer files from the FAT32 formatted SD card, to your Mac.

Posted by: mike_method on 2021-12-12 23:57:18

I was able to get Cubase v1.0 to work on my SE, but couldn't get 2.5.1 to work though I didn't fiddle around with it too much. I was however able to get 2.5.1 to work on my SE/30 but that is running 7.5.3 so perhaps it might work on the SE.

That’s the version I want or any iteration of v.1. There’s a fella on eBay selling v1.8.3 and allegedly he found it on the web as abandonware. I’m not having any luck finding it so I may have to buy off him.

Posted by: Trash80toHP_Mini on 2021-12-13 07:56:15

@ymk MacSD:, I vaguely recall the sled and board, do you have a dev thread for the board in hacks? Link so we dont tangentize this topic?

Posted by: chillin on 2021-12-13 08:03:29

I guess a network card for an SE is unobtanium? I am surprised there is no mention of LocalTalk. Too slow to be useful?

Interest here

Introducing (and interest check) AirTalk: Wireless plug-and-play LocalTalk dongles

I think this is the moment to unveil something I've been working on for the last few weeks. This is AirTalk (thanks to @Cory5412 for the name). It aims to allow wireless LocalTalk networking (over WiFi) that feels like LocalTalk: so, no necessary configuration (aside from selecting the WiFi...

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Posted by: LaPorta on 2021-12-13 08:30:13

I forget where, but I got an SE Ethernet card from someone here. The thing is damn slow though, I'd almost just take the LocalTalk adapter.

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