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Remnants of the pre-crash BUG Pickles thread
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2021-11-07 12:59:19 Here's another tease: Yeah, we've got the source code to the cdevs and the card ROMs here...
Posted by: micheledipaola on 2021-11-07 13:05:21 Hold fast, something exciting on the way... View attachment 35693 View attachment 35694 Hey @cheesestraws you have my full attention now 😀 😀 @jeremywork you are welcome and even more thanks for bringing back this, if it is ending up in some good news... Finger crossed!
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2021-11-07 13:08:33 Whoa 🙂 What was the trick to this? The trick is that @tshinba or one of his associates had immaculate backup hygiene. Those files are not cdevs stripped of their metadata. They're fully intact Dantz Retrospect files (it took most of this evening to work out what the file format they were). They are full backups, including all metadata and resource forks of not only the drivers, but the source code to the drivers and to the card ROMs. I'm just making some stuffit files, will upload in a moment.
Posted by: jeremywork on 2021-11-07 13:09:26 Here's another tease: View attachment 35695 Yeah, we've got the source code to the cdevs and the card ROMs here... That's very interesting! Curious to know if the XA driver contains the (presumably three separate) ROMs for those too... Hey @cheesestraws you have my full attention now 😀 😀 @jeremywork you are welcome and even more thanks for bringing back this, if it is ending up in some good news... Finger crossed! You're welcome! I'm very encouraged by whatever trick @cheesestraws just deployed here 🙂
Posted by: jeremywork on 2021-11-07 13:10:13 The trick is that @tshinba or one of his associates had immaculate backup hygiene. Those files are not cdevs stripped of their metadata. They're fully intact Dantz Retrospect files (it took most of this evening to work out what the file format they were). They are full backups, including all metadata and resource forks of not only the drivers, but the source code to the drivers and to the card ROMs. I'm just making some stuffit files, will upload in a moment. No way! That's an amazing find 😀
Posted by: micheledipaola on 2021-11-07 13:12:59 Imagine this: I haven't been coming and checking the board here for... weeks. Now tonight I had this idea, I came, I found the revived thread by @jeremywork and now this work by @cheesestraws ... I am speechless!!! and super happy!
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2021-11-07 13:15:34 OK. @jeremywork @micheledipaola @CircuitBored please download these and make sure you can get the data out of them? Pickles24AW3.0.sit and Pickles24V1.4.sit contain the source code to the ROMs to, presumably, those cards. PicklesCdev3.0.9.sit contains two different builds (?) of the cdev for the Pickles 24 along with its source code. PicklesCdevXA2.2.2a.sit contains the same but for the Pickles XA (I assume).
Posted by: jeremywork on 2021-11-07 13:16:30 Imagine this: I haven't been coming and checking the board here for... weeks. Now tonight I had this idea, I came, I found the revived thread by @jeremywork and now this work by @cheesestraws ... I am speechless!!! and super happy! You sensed a disturbance in the force 🙂 @Nathan_A and I discussed this a bit months ago, but I procrastinated in reposting it. Glad my timing is working out after all.
Posted by: micheledipaola on 2021-11-07 13:21:49 Christmas came early!!!! Thanks @cheesestraws ! You sensed a disturbance in the force 🙂 🤣🤣🤣 BTW this is the PDF manual for the 24A that we had recovered in the lost thread:
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2021-11-07 13:23:15 Now nobody tell anyone we've found the drivers until I have found a card on buyee ok? 😛
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2021-11-07 13:35:33 (On a less facetious note, I think this is the first source code for an accelerated card that has surfaced?)
Posted by: jeremywork on 2021-11-07 13:36:05 OK. @jeremywork @micheledipaola @CircuitBored please download these and make sure you can get the data out of them? Pickles24AW3.0.sit and Pickles24V1.4.sit contain the source code to the ROMs to, presumably, those cards. PicklesCdev3.0.9.sit contains two different builds (?) of the cdev for the Pickles 24 along with its source code. PicklesCdevXA2.2.2a.sit contains the same but for the Pickles XA (I assume). Thank you very much! Unstuffs just fine on my end. It looks like the XA driver in here is actually newer than the previously discovered working one. @micheledipaola, do you still have Mr. Shinbayashi's contact? It would be lovely to report that his files were, in fact, useful. It was somewhat of a letdown the first time we thought they were unusable.
Posted by: micheledipaola on 2021-11-07 13:37:58 Now nobody tell anyone we've found the drivers until I have found a card on buyee ok? 😛 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I was about to ask to post them on Mac Garden - then you will do it when you are ready. (On a less facetious note, I think this is the first source code for an accelerated card that has surfaced?) @cheesestraws I am not an expert, but I guess so. Never found something similar around IIRC. @micheledipaola, do you still have Mr. Shinbayashi's contact? It would be lovely to report that his files were, in fact, useful. It was somewhat of a letdown the first time we thought they were unusable. @jeremywork yes I should still have his email somewhere, and I was thinking about writing him already. I will now!
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2021-11-07 13:39:42 I was about to ask to post them on Mac Garden - then you will do it when you are ready. I was joking 🙂 . I'm not going to do it now, but will probably do it in the morning. I'm too tired to do screenshots and writeup at the moment. I'm definitely going to keep an eye open for one of these cards, though yes I should still have his email somewhere, and I was thinking about writing him already. I will now Yes, that would be nice 😀. I'm really happy with this outcome.
Posted by: micheledipaola on 2021-11-07 13:40:57 Now I went and checked the email... and I found that these files you compiled @cheesestraws were in fact the last files he sent me after we discovered that the drivers he first sent were resources-fried. So even more definitely I am going to write him about this!!!
Posted by: Nathan_A on 2021-11-07 14:00:49 The trick is that @tshinba or one of his associates had immaculate backup hygiene. Those files are not cdevs stripped of their metadata. They're fully intact Dantz Retrospect files (it took most of this evening to work out what the file format they were). They are full backups, including all metadata and resource forks of not only the drivers, but the source code to the drivers and to the card ROMs. I'm just making some stuffit files, will upload in a moment. Sweet tap-dancing Moses! That's awesome!
Posted by: jeremywork on 2021-11-07 14:05:04 Now I went and checked the email... and I found that these files you compiled @cheesestraws were in fact the last files he sent me after we discovered that the drivers he first sent were resources-fried. So even more definitely I am going to write him about this!!! Excellent, thanks 🙂
Posted by: joshc on 2021-11-07 14:07:30 @cheesestraws in his spare time, just casually unearthing lost Mac treasures... Seriously, well done on this, a truly excellent discovery. 👏👏👏
Posted by: CC_333 on 2021-11-07 14:15:58 This is genuinely impressive! It's like some kind of digital archeology or something. c
Posted by: cheesestraws on 2021-11-07 14:43:48 @cheesestraws in his spare time, just casually unearthing lost Mac treasures... Hahaha. Honestly, stubbornness more than skill was called for here. I'm pleased that people are happy, though. I'm going to have a look through all the code tomorrow. Exciting times.
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